November 6, 2007

Conservative pundit argues for ‘victory’ over Palestinians

Dan Pine on Daniel Pipes:

… “In 1993, with [the Oslo accords], Israel’s policy was, ‘We’ll give you some of what you want, just leave us alone,’” Pipes says. “Appeasement has been the dominant thread of Israeli policy. It doesn’t work, not with mortal enemies. I advocate we return to deterrence.”

What would a new deterrence look like? For one thing, no more parleys with Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers shaking hands across a table. Not until the Palestinians give up any notion of vanquishing Israel. “I refuse to discuss final status until our side wins,” Pipes says. “I see no reason to give carrots to Palestinians.” …

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3 Responses to Conservative pundit argues for ‘victory’ over Palestinians

  1. Today’s Wall Street Journal had an opinion page entry on Paul Tibbets and waterboarding. It said that, at the start of the Second World War, Franklin Roosevelt asked both sides to refrain from bombing. The Nazis, of course, bombed Warsaw immediately, and then turned their attention to Rotterdam and Coventry. By 1943, Roosevelt was promising to cooperate with Churchill in bombing Germany into ruin.

    The description of the bombing of Hamburg said that many bomb shelters were turned into ovens, with the people inside being roasted into a single mass of flesh. Perhaps a few visitations of this kind of horror on the Palestinians–with care being taken to direct the bombs only at the points of origin of rockets, suicide bombers, or other hostilities as opposed to indiscriminately–would soon put an end to the violence. It was certainly effective in eventually putting an end to Nazi violence.

    On second thought, it might be simpler to just blow up all the infrastructure in Gaza, such as electricity and water supplies, to force the Palestinians to flee into Egypt. That also would put an end to the violence, at least until the Palestinians got longer-range rockets they could fire from Egypt (assuming that Egypt would let them perpetrate an act of war with Israel).

  2. yamit82 says:

    Where does Pipes get his 20% of Pali Arabs are willing to give up and make peace on Israel terms? Who are they? where can we find them? Are they Muslim ,Christian, Druse, or WHAT? Who are these modern non radical Islamists who renounce radical Islam? The vagueness in pipes assertions lead me to believe he is delving on wishful thinking and some attempt at political correctness here.

    The rest of what he has to say I can live with.

  3. South says:

    I do not believe Daniel Pipes is foolish or lazy. I believe he is fearful.

    A vacation from Philadelphia to ZOA, northern California avoids the required work. We already know about the anti-Zionist Jews in Israel.

    Pipes believes in deterrence; to implement this requires a new state of the art national organization…..it can’t get developed in Israel…… It must be prepared to confront the Yevsektzia and the Sausalito, California “Jewish” crowd. It must be able to approach the American political leadership. It must be able to meet with Jewish Israel’s Christian allies in the US.

    All else is visiting college campuses.

    Kol tuv,