Obama’s Web Site: Senior Citizens are Useless Eaters Who Waste Medical Resources
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by Bill Levinson
The Wall Street Journal reported (”Government Care’s Assault on Seniors,” July 23 2009) that Congressional legislation (H.R. 3200) will “reduce access to care, pressure the elderly to end their lives prematurely, and doom baby boomers to painful later years.” This is consistent with material on Barack Obama’s own Web site, Barackobama.com. It is to be remembered that all contributions are vetted by the site’s moderators, and material with which Obama’s staff does not agree is deleted. Barack Obama’s Web site approved numerous postings to the effect that the country’s senior citizens–and we will all be senior citizens some day unless we die first–are useless eaters whose access to medical services should be severely curtailed to save money. Here is one of the more egregious entries, and we doubt that it was really posted by a 79 year old woman with health problems
- I am 79, on Medicare and have several medical problems. We need some transparency on this issue. I strongly support Health Care Reform, but measures that cut costs and cover most citizens will be very hard to sell, and so far Obama hasn’t much stomach for fights. We must have less choice for end-of-life patients, and probably a measure of rationing for everyone (”No, you can’t have that test” and to a clinic “No you can’t have that machine. Only three per state allowed.” I assume the various panels at work are looking at best practice in France, Germany, Norway, and others.
This comes as no surprise, and it is no accident. “Maybe this isn’t going to help. Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery but taking the painkiller” came from Barack Obama himself, and all these entries on his Web site–none of which would be allowed to appear if the moderators did not agree with them–are shilling for the same agenda.
This is not to say that we are opposed to living wills, in which people say that they do not want their hearts restarted if they are terminally ill. It says that the government should make these decisions for senior citizens for the sole purpose of saving money, which is what the Obama “health care” plan is really about. We also doubt that a 79 year old woman with medical problems really wrote this. We suspect that this was really posted by a member of Obama’s staff to persuade “Carol’s” fellow “senior citizens” that they should forego life-extending medical treatments such as pacemakers and bypass surgery in favor of hospice, pain medications, and possibly euthanasia. The cat is now out of the bag, and everyone in the country needs to see this posting on Barack Obama’s official Web site. We have incidentally downloaded the Web page to prevent Obama’s people from hiding the evidence when this scandal explodes all over the Internet.
This is far from the only such entry on the Web site. The following was posted by someone who identifies herself as a doctor:
- The questions is do Americans now believe that health care is a right and not a privilege as I do? I don’t believe that exotic and futile health care however, is a right. Half our health care dollars (my estimate which may not be completely correct) are spent on futile health care at the end of life or the beginning of life. We need clear guidelines as to when a person at public expense will be placed under hospice care and taken out of the ICU and guidelines for other such end of life decisions. We cannot give every possible treatment to stretch out misery and suffering to the very last moment, nor keep brain dead people “alive” on ventilators at public expense instead of using that money to help those that can be saved!
As far as we know, brain dead people are not kept “alive” on ventilators. Most states now define actual brain death as death, period, and corpses are not kept “alive.” We think the real reference is, for example, 100 year old “useless eaters” who should be given a pill instead of a pacemaker, and allowed to die. Here, meanwhile, is one that is obviously from a shill who is probably in his or her early 20s, thinks he/she will never grow old, and really does think of senior citizens as useless eaters.
- I don’t have or need a story. Basic health care should be available in all industrialized countires. I expect that to mean rationing some services and I think it should. End of life care is outragously costly for the benefit (hours, days, weeks?) it provides. We need a culture change that emphasizes quality of life and puts our health care dollars where they provide the most benefit. Maternity, children, and life saving procedures for young adults. WE ration care now by income. There are better ways. I’m 67 and say that knowing rationing would soon affect me. I’d be happy to see less intervention on my behalf and more on those younger who have full lives ahead.</strong
Sure, “Roseanne,” you are a nice senior citizen who really wants to die and get out of the way. Why don’t you just tell us you found $10 million in Nigera and need our help to get it out of the country? We would find that story far more believable than the one you told. Here is yet another:
- We will also need to educate Americans on the limitations of modern healthcare. We need to make informed decisions about expensive end of life care. Does it make sense to transfer patients who are demented from nursing homes to receive advanced care when we cannot improve their quality of life? Or put defibrillators in an 80 year old when the survival data is lacking. Or transfer someone to the ICU when they are in the terminal stages of their cancer? As a society we need to begin this dialog, or as we grow older, the costs will rob our children of their health care.
The concept of denial of care, or even euthanasia, for people with incurable mental illnesses (which would probably include “demented” senior citizens in nursing homes) is hardly new, and we remember hearing about it before Mr. Obama’s election. A brief Google search refreshed our memory:
- The Economics of Caring for the Helpless
One of the most significant pushes Hitler and his men had for instituting the T-4 Program was not just a Eugenics or ‘bloodlines’ argument, but that the burden on the government of Germany financially was too great for German ‘citizens’ deemed unworthy of life, who in the estimation of Hitler were ‘feeders’ who never gave back to the state in ways such as paying taxes, voting or contributing to society. Based upon the Binder’s early writing, they developed a secondary argument, that life ‘unworthy’ of life which could be terminated by the State with proper consideration [which initially meant the three physician unanimous vote for each case to determine 'fitness', and later degenerated into a generic command for forced euthanasias without even the family's involvement] was also a drain on Federal finances for those determined not to be a ‘valuable’ life. Forced sterilizations were put in place also to reduce the mentally ‘infirm’ from reproducing since it was the view of the Reich that they would produce others deemed ‘imbecilic’, requiring State support. Posters, media reports and meetings were held to educate the public on the necessity of the program.
Ah yes, we were sure we had seen Mr. Obama’s ideas somewhere before, and now we know where.
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Just for your information, Bill, in a friendly sort of way because I know your heart is right, I support nationalized medicine AND I ardently support Israel — and I am 63, not 36. I don’t wish any harm to older Americans; but if push comes to shove, I want my son to have a chance for a good life, even if it means my dying. In the Army, the medic didn’t turn away enlisted men so that the officers could have the best health care available: treatment was based on need, not pay grade. There is nothing wrong with this thinking, and I’m glad if Obama is in favor of it.
On the other hand, Barry should keep his mitts off of Israel; and as for Iran, the Jews can handle them well enough — all Obama needs to do is get out of the way and go to Afganistan, like he said he would. That’s the sort of thing Israpundit is about.
I know it’s tempting to try to convince aging Jewish voters that Obama is a bad man, because he wants to take away their medication; but that isn’t what we need to be about: We need to be promoting Israel’s interests, flat-out, and not doing these end runs to try to out-flank our enemies. Obama is pursuing the wrong course in Israel: It’s a course that’s immediately harmful to Israel, and harmful to Americans and others in the long run. Besides this, BO is not the prime mover in the attacks on Israel; in fact, this is probably the first time in about a decade that the US President is less pro-Israel than the Israeli PM. We’re bucking a big tide of lies, inuendos and political plays by many people, including nearly all the world’s leaders; and our foremost enemies are prominent Jews like Rahm Emanuel.
Jews need to be won over to the Zionist side, by changing the REASONING going on in their hearts: They need to see that they really are the chosen people, in a proper sense: not chosen to end CO2 emissions, nor to coddle homosexuals, nor any of these other causes they go after to “save the planet”. Health reform is a good cause. We’ve tried a privatized system, and it isn’t working for the poor people. This is a ready-made cause for liberal Jews to support and — get this — even to die for.
Speaking against health care reform isn’t going to win over American Jews, who are so overwhelmingly liberal. Just consider WHY they’re so liberal. Have they been lured into this way of thinking because of some Christian plot? No — I dare say, the more religious Christians in the US are, if anything, opposed to heatlh care reform because they’re opposed to Obama! But you don’t have to win THEM over; you have to win over your flesh and blood. Why are your brethren so liberal? BECAUSE THEY’RE JEWISH! They’re trying to fix the world, to BE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE! Your job is not to fight them in matters like this, but to (1) let them know that you AGREE with them that they are chosen, (2) you applaud their EFFORTS to live in, what to them is a “chosen” way of living and thinking, and (3) to fill them in on what they’re MISSING about being “chosen”.
I don’t know the specifics of how to bring this about. You want your American Jewish brothers and sisters to realize their kinship with the Jews in Israel; and appeal to some sort of familial bonding. You might start by letting them know how fully you accept them as your kinsmen, and try to HELP them in some concerns, like health care reform, where you should be able to see eye to eye on its appeal to humanity, if not on the details. I’m not talking about ordaining homosexual rabbis here. Instead, I’m for trying to convince your American brethren that (1) first and foremost, you are for them because they are brethren, and (2) as brethren, they need to be more concerned about the welfare of Jews in Israel than about…
…about some other things. How about this tack: Yes, older folks may have to suffer in order to provide heath care for the poor. Is the homosexual community also willing to suffer? The AIDS epidemic is, after all, the most expensive preventable health issue in the history of humanity. Old people are willing to forgo treatment that might prolong their lives; are AIDS sufferers, the vast majority of whom are responsible for their own illness, likewise willing to accept without treatment a certain death?
Do you see what I’ve done? I’ve AGREED with the truly humanitarian instinct in the American Jew, and called it good. That done, what’s left is to let THEM consider who means more to them — their homosexual friends, or their parents? Perhaps both will have to sacrifice, so the poor can have a fair share. Our liberal brethren need to honestly decide on points such as this. The MAIN point, though, is not health car reform at all, but letting you fellow Jew know that you care for and appreciate him as a fellow Jew.
Enough. Keep up the good work, Bill
Comment by BlandOatmeal — July 31, 2009 @ 11:44 am
Re:
Hmmm, now we are talking. In addition, illegal immigrants should be denied medical treatment to save money. Same for drug addicts and tobacco users who are responsible for their own troubles… we could save quite a bit of money by the time we are done. The babies of welfare recipients can be aborted (mandatory) to avoid the production of more useless eaters. I think we can put together a comprehensive “health care” plan for Obama to approve.
Comment by Bill Levinson — July 31, 2009 @ 6:31 pm
Bland, it’s fine if it’s YOUR choice not to be kept alive, or your family’s, if you are unable to make that decision. However it is not the government who should determine who lives and dies.
Good job Bill in finding this. Very chilling.
Comment by Laura — July 31, 2009 @ 10:15 pm
Re post 6:
Has it occurred to you that the decision to view this as “either/or” might be a willed choice rather than a circumstantial one? Why think in those terms? You both have a right to be here. I mention this only because I’ve noticed an inclination to do the same ‘prioritizing’ in other posts of yours as well.
There’s an argument to be made for the proposition that Mr Obama’s willingness to do the ONE ["take away their medication"] is characteristic of an individual who would not scruple against doing the OTHER [i.e., sell out Israel]. You’ll forgive my asking, but how much do you really know about this President?
Do you not find it [at the very least] curious that it should be so hard to lay hands on any part of his personal and career paper trail? I’m not referring solely to the birth certificate flap. What many folks fail to grasp is that that is scarcely the tip of the iceberg.
Don’t misunderstand me: There could well be all sorts of legitimate reasons for sequestering one or another document in a person’s record. But to systematically seal-off the whole shootin’ match? That has never passed the smell test for me.
He was a guest lecturer at U. of Chicago Law School in Constitutional Law. Presumably would have written numerous legal papers. Try finding one. Just one.
He was Editor/President of the Harvard Law Review. Try finding a single article he wrote for it.
Try getting hold of his Harvard thesis. Lotsa luck.
Or his Columbia University papers.
Or his Occidental College papers.
Or his SAT scores.
Or his LSAT scores.
Good God, the nuclear secrets of the Islamic Republic of Iran are less thor-oughly sequestered than this guy’s paper trail!
WHY?
Do we really want the man chosen to be the most powerful individual in the world—the person with the lives of billions of people, effectively, in the palm of his hand—to have a background that is hazy, hidden and opaque? or one that is fully transparent? How much trust are you willing to place in the hands of such a one as the present occupant of the Oval Office?
The system may well need something more than a “tune-up,” but that doesn’t mean it needs a total “overhaul” (let alone a complete re-engineering of the vehicle).
Furthermore, when the Senate and the House vote to accept for themselves – personally — the SAME plan they propose for “the poor people” (to replace the plan they’ve had for themselves till now), then I’ll believe their claims of concern for the poor. Not unless, and not until. [Who knows? Maybe that'll get them to READ the bill before they vote on it....]
Comment by dweller — August 4, 2009 @ 2:19 am
Re post 7:
No need. Take away their employability and they’ll go home.
They aren’t illegal ‘immigrants’ — but illegal migrants. They aren’t in the U.S. for citizenship but for work.
Require an employer to come up with a legitimate Social Security Number, at tax time, for each worker whose wages he wants to deduct from his taxes — or have those wages disallowed. Without work accessible to them, the illegals will take themselves home. No need even to spend money on deportations or gestapo-style roundups, etc.
Rep. Steve King [R-IA] has a bill that would do just that — i.e., require employers to produce a verifiable SSN [probably thru "e-verify," or something comparable] — but the Demo’s have the measure bottled up in committee.
Why go small potatoes? Instead of requiring the snuffing of the babies, why not demand “termination” of the parents, and nip the problem in the bud, as it were?
After all, adults are bigger than preborn children and do a lot more ‘useless eating’ than they do.
Comment by dweller — August 4, 2009 @ 2:45 am
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