Militant “Muslim” Is Alleged Mass Murderer in Fort Hood Shooting
by Bill Levinson
A terrorist killed eleven American soldiers at Ford Hood and wounded dozens of others. The alleged shooter, Nidal Malik Hasan, was a convert to militant “Islam.” “He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans,” Col Lee told Fox News.
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WP posted the shooter’s bio It states
Virginia Tech is near the CIA facility. Virginia Tech is where another shooter killed 35 some people a couple years ago. Likely that case and the current one are both mind control events. Of course this was a Jihadi terrorist event.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 6, 2009 @ 8:07 am
You say: “Nidal Malik Hasan, was a convert to militant “Islam.””
Sorry Bill, this is not true. It is a typical American variety of wishful thinking. Nidal Malik Hasan was a quite ordinary peaceloving moderate muslim all his life. He never “converted” to anything else.
Comment by Per — November 6, 2009 @ 4:37 pm
That is true, unless it be proven that he killed those troops.
Comment by Michael Ejercito — November 6, 2009 @ 9:06 pm
It’s true he wasn’t a convert to islam, he was born a muslim, but he certainly wasn’t moderate or peace-loving, you shmuck.
Comment by Laura — November 6, 2009 @ 11:10 pm
Islam is like an evil seed. At anytime in a Muslim’s life and no matter how ordinary, peace loving or moderate the Muslim may appear that seed may sprout and turn the one holding it into a militant Muslim mass murderer who honestly believes they have the right to rise up and attack Americans. Their Bible, the Koran, told them so. There is no religion on earth that does the same as Islam. It is an insane death cult. The Lord said:
Proverbs 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
With Omuslim in office it probably will be impossible to remove them from the military because it is on the Muslim agenda to use a country’s laws against the country and help Islam. Transfer would be a good idea, but transfer to where? Globalism and Islam are joined at the hip. Just as North Korea is China’s bad boy, both are ideological partners with the same goals. One is the hand, the other is the glove.
Globalism and Islam both mean Submission. How will Globalism and Islam benefit? What news story is this taking the place of? Healthcare, Barak’s Trip to USA or something else?
Comment by Teshuvah — November 6, 2009 @ 11:45 pm
No, this is ridiculous. It is the evil seed. Having Muslims in a country is like having an aggressive Pitbull as a pet for 2 year old children.
Psalms 120:7 I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 7, 2009 @ 12:03 am
Re: #7
Having Islamic supremacists in a country is like having an
aggressiverabid Pitbull as a pet for 2 year old children.There, I fixed it.
Comment by Bill Levinson — November 7, 2009 @ 12:17 am
There are a few sane people left on Earth, but they are scarce and in hiding. The rest are naive idiots who for some reason think that Muslims are peace loving people. There lies the problem. They learn from childhood to hate non-Muslims, and to die for Islam is their greatest hope. The US has been blinded to the truth of Islam and has welcomed them to this country with open arms, even while knowing what they are capable of. The European are even more stupid if that’s possible.
Israel, also, has some idiots. Those are the ones who believe that to better the Arab’s financial live will turn them to the Israel side of democracy. Lots of hooey. They are what they are, even when pretending that they are peace loving. They must be treated as mad dogs and eliminated.
Comment by Ed D — November 7, 2009 @ 1:21 am
>>>There are a few sane people left on Earth, but they are scarce and in hiding. ….They must be treated as mad dogs and eliminated.
At the time of Noah, the Bible says: Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Is not that word violence the same as HAMAS? Therefore, “and the earth was filled with HAMAS.”
Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary
2555. chamac
omx chamac khaw-mawce’
from 2554; violence; by implication, wrong; by meton. unjust gain:–cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.
The significance of Genesis 6:11 is that Yeshua said:
Mt 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Lu 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Now we have HAMAS.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 7, 2009 @ 2:26 am
@Laura
You say:
I think you should rather discuss your oxymoronic statement with your President, as well with all still living former Presidents and Secretaries of State who for decades have described Islam as the religion of peace, tolerance and love.
What Nidal Hasan Malik did was nothing but an act of Islamic peace, tolerance and love, as defined by the US Establishment, you schmuck!
Comment by Per — November 7, 2009 @ 2:46 am
Who are you to call me a shmuck? Yes I called you a shmuck because you deserved it based on what I believed you meant by your previous statement.
Comment by Laura — November 7, 2009 @ 9:48 am
“teshuvah” one thing we real jews can’t stand is a liar.
you showed your true colors when you start quoting the founder of xnity.
you wanna be a xn. that’s okay, if you were born an xn. then fine, follow your religion.
but don’t you dare come up in this blog or anywhere else with a hebrew name for returning to Gd making people think you’re a jew and start this messy-antic bullshit.
now, if you were born a jew, you need to talk to someone at jewsforjudaism.org
Comment by bugsy — November 7, 2009 @ 10:09 am
levinson is correct: hasan is a home-grown terrorist, period.
and ‘teshuvah’ is also a terrorist. a spiritual, religious terrorist who distorts the torah for their own selfish purposes. you ought to know that you will pay a terrible price for any jew you misguide.
take this advice: if you were born a jew: jewsforjudaism.
if you were born a xn, then change your name and take your missionizing bullshit out of here.
Comment by bugsy — November 7, 2009 @ 10:14 am
Bugsy , calm down! Teshuva are good guys just zealous in their beliefs which is not Judaism! I wish you knew Tanach as well as they. They have it just about down to memory. See we old timers here have an advantage over the newer pundits, we recognize and sort of know old timers who have not been around for some time.
“There is No Radical or Moderate Islam, Only Islam”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Yh6YAjeYg&feature=related
Arab World’s View of George W. Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQ9gWwV_DQ&feature=related
Dr. Mordechai Kedar of Bar-Ilan University Talk about Arab Terror - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sh4dyStS_4&feature=related
Iraqi / Israeli diplomacy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD_-gIZ5sOk&NR=1 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgxN1RktwoA&NR=1 part 2
Kedar vs. Bostrom - Organ trade scandal Palestinians are compulsive liars RT Top Stories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eipil73cA2k&feature=related
Comment by yamit82 — November 7, 2009 @ 12:22 pm
Our Brain Dead Country
2009 November 6
http://newsrealblog.com/2009/11/06/our-brain-dead-country/
To MSNBC the Least Important Thing about Killer Army Doctor is He was a Muslim Who Lauded Suicide Bombers: Meltdown with Keith Olbermann Part 14
2009 November 5
Our Brain Dead Country
2009 November 6
tags: Fort Hood Massacre, News, Politics
by David Horowitz
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But despite his identification with America’s enemies, the army kept him in its officer corps. How in God’s name was this possible? But it was. And so, after calling America the “aggressor” in Afghanistan and Iraq this Muslim jihadist traitor army officer picks up his semi-automatic weapons and heads for the center at Ft. Hood where soldiers are being deployed to fight the jihadists in Afghanistan to conduct his massacre. Yet this morning the Fox News Channel chiron says “Investigators search for a motive in the Ft. Hood killings.” Is everybody out of their mind?
The Ft. Hood killings are the chickens of the left coming home to roost. Already the chief political correspondent of The Nation has decried even mention of the fact that the jihadist killer Hasan is a Palestinian Muslim. According to The Nation this is “Islamophobia.” This fatuous attempt to protect America’s enemies carries on The Nation’s 60-year tradition as the leading fifth column collaborator with America’s enemies — defender of the Rosenbergs, defender of Hiss, defender of their boss Stalin, defender of Mao, defender of Castro and now defender of Islamic terrorists. But The Nation is only the tip of an iceberg. The fifth column formed out of the unholy alliance between radical Islam and the American left is now entrenched in the White House and throughout our government. And in matters like the Muslim jihadist Major Hasan our military is its captive.
The Fort Hood massacre is the first of the preventable atrocities we have been warning about on our websites since 9/11 — the atrocities which are apparently necessary for Americans to wake up to the threat that confronts us. We have a vast internal threat in this country in the form of this unholy alliance between the anti-American Left and radical Islam – whose Muslim Brotherhood network extends through our universities, our government and our military. It is “politically incorrect” to recognize this fact. You can be barred — as I have been — from speaking at universities for even talking about it. The embargo of discussion of the Islamo-fascist threat puts every American (including the infidel collaborators) at risk. Hasan had semi-automatic weapons. But they weren’t nuclear. That possibility is just around the corner unless we undergo a sea change in our attitudes and marshal the intelligence and the courage to recognize the threat.
Comment by yamit82 — November 7, 2009 @ 3:53 pm
Re: #13
My books on business management quote Jesus all the time. A lot of what he (note the small “h”) said made sense even though I obviously do not believe he was the son of God.
The fact that Jesus said that what one does to the least of his followers, one does to Jesus allows us to define militant “Muslims” as genuine Christ Killers (for public relations to be directed to Christians). I am quite willing to use a hate term that the militant “Muslims” apply to Jews and turn it against them with tenfold interest. Whenever the militant “Muslims” kill or persecute a Christian anywhere in the world, we should say “Christ Killing Islamofascists” or “Militant Islamic Christ Killers” and quote the New Testament that says that, whatever one does to the least of Jesus’ followers, one does to Jesus.
If you Google on “Christ Killers,” by the way, my Web page that defines militant “Muslims” as such comes up on the second page of the search results. We need to get it on the first page.
Comment by Bill Levinson — November 7, 2009 @ 7:30 pm
Does your book on business management also quote Jesus re: Charging of interest?
“Lend without expecting any return,” counsels Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount (Luke 6:34–35), and though the context would suggest that one should not even expect repayment of the principal.
Was this quote also in your book on business management?
“Him that taketh away thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee, and of him that taketh away thy goods, ask them not again.” ["Luke vi. 29, 30.] Poverty of person is the only possible sequence to this extraordinary manifestation of poverty of spirit. Poverty of person is attended with many unpleasantnesses; and Jesus, who knew that poverty would result from his teaching, says, as if he wished to keep the poor content through their lives with Poverty. “Blessed be ye poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.” [Luke vi. 20.] But woe unto you that are rich, for ye have received your consolation.” [Luke vi. 24.] He pictures one in hell, whose only related vice is that in life he was rich; and another in heaven, whose only related virtue is that in life he was poor. [Luke xvi. 19-31.] He affirms it is more difficult for a rich man to get into heaven, than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. [Luke xviii. 25.] The only intent of such teaching could be to induce the poor to remain content in this life with the want and misery of their wretched state in the hope of higher recompense in some future life.
You don’t believe he was the son of god, maybe you ascribe to him as: The Messiah? or Prophet?
Comment by yamit82 — November 7, 2009 @ 9:36 pm
Re: #18
Jesus could have done a much better job with some of his material. I am thinking about the parable of the master who gave his servants money to hold in trust for him, and he praised the servants who invested the money on his behalf for good stewardship. He took away the money he gave to the servant who buried the money and did nothing with it, because the man had served him poorly. The parable does not unfortunately describe what the master would have done with a servant who invested his trust with diligence and good faith, but nonetheless lost it.
The New Testament also does not record what Jesus said in answer to Pilate’s “What is truth?” I am writing a book that answers this question (”Truth” being Natural Law, the basic laws of human behavior that govern all societies and organizations; it is the basis for what the Chinese call the Mandate of Heaven). The New Testament was of course based on Natural Law but, had Jesus and his disciples done a better job of explaining their “Kingdom of Heaven” (sounds a bit like the Mandate of Heaven), they might not have been crucified, thrown to the lions, and so on. Then again, the things that the Caesars were doing were hardly in accord with Natural Law, so this admittedly might not have helped all that much.
Jesus’ aversion to riches probably comes from the Buddhist aversion to “material attachments,” and this actually makes good sense, but I don’t think he explains it as well as others. “Him that taketh away thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee, and of him that taketh away thy goods, ask them not again” does sound like a pretty poor explanation. You can serve neither your employees, suppliers, shareholders, or community if you give away the business. It is not, in modern terms, socially responsible to give away the business.
Henry Ford said the same thing, but he said it a lot better; he said in effect to take care of the job, and the money will take care of itself. (This idea goes back to the Bhagavad-Gita, by the way.) If you focus on serving others, e.g. with good quality and low prices for your customers along with high wages for your employees, you won’t have to worry about money; you will have more business than you can handle. If you focus on money, you won’t have any because you won’t have any customers. Needless to say, Henry Ford did not view poverty as a virtue.
(Addendum)
This is what I think Jesus and/or his disciples were reading when they developed the New Testament.
http://www.bhagavad-gita.us/articles/493/1/Bhagavad-Gita-414/Page1.html
“There is no work that affects Me; nor do I aspire for the fruits of action. One who understands this truth about Me also does not become entangled in the fruitive reactions of work. ”
This one is even better:
http://www.bhagavad-gita.us/articles/52/1/Bhagavad-Gita-1827/Page1.html
“The worker who is attached to work and the fruits of work, desiring to enjoy those fruits, and who is greedy, always envious, impure, and moved by joy and sorrow, is said to be in the mode of passion.”
From Buddhism http://www.angelfire.com/ca/SHALOM/dhammapada.html
“Free from desire,
Free from possessions,
Free from the dark places of the heart.
Free from attachment and appetite,
Following the seven lights of awakening,
And rejoicing greatly in his freedom,
In this world the wise man
Becomes himself a light,
Pure, shining, free.”
“Freedom from possessions” does not necessarily mean that one has no possessions, but rather that one is free from their influence. Many monks (Buddhist as well as Christian) do take vows of poverty but Ford’s business approach, which obviously did not involve poverty, followed the same ideal.
“From passion and desire,
Sensuousness and lust,
Arise grief and fear.
Free yourself from attachment.”
reinforces this. It is quite possible that this was what Jesus & Co. were getting at, and that they had in fact studied this material.
Comment by Bill Levinson — November 7, 2009 @ 10:57 pm
who says “teshuva” knows tanach better than i do? give me a break.
who says he/she is one of the ‘good guys’? how do you know that?
do you consider a missionizing xn a good person?
let’s hope not.
xns who want to practice their religion and not proselytize are okay with me.
but xns who pose as jews and comment on a jewish site? oh hell no.
and a xn who uses a sacred jewish term for a name and quotes xnity? oh helllll no!!!!!
levinson: i can’t believe you launch into this defense of xnity? what is happening here? is israpundit turning upside down?
yamit, levinson and anyone else: get this straight: missionizing xns are our enemies in a spiritual war similarly to the muzzies in a physical war. check the stats at jewsforjudaism.org or yad l’achim in israel.
we have to call them out whenever we see them and tell them: hell no!!!
Comment by bugsy — November 7, 2009 @ 11:49 pm
I wasn’t even going to respond to bugsy’s abuse because there are such wonderful comments from Jews. I will say I wasn’t missionizing in post #10, and am opposed to Jews for Jesus because JFG makes Jews into apostate Christians. I prefer Messianic Judaism but that usually requires a definition so I say Christian Zionist to keep it short. Anyone who has been around here a long time will know I sometimes sign that way. Bugsy must be new.
Christians don’t accept us because we do Shabbat and don’t do pagan feasts like Easter and Christmas and try to define the word Shema to them, which they hate. Jews say we are missionizing so we are friendless…except for yamit with whom we emailed for months. [Yamit, I lost your email addy, but if you send it to Ted, perhaps he will forward it to me. Don't post it here because it isn't safe.]
I just posted a verse from the Gen 6 about “the world full of Hamas” and Yeshua saying that when he returns (and restores Israel) it will be the same. So time is short.
Yeshua, BTW, is a Jewish rabbi, bells and all.
Bill #13 wrote: The fact that Jesus said that what one does to the least of his followers, one does to Jesus …
The actual quote says: Mt 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
“My brethren” = Jews.
Click on this cartoon. Just whose finger do you suppose this is? The same that wrote “MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN” on the wall before Babylon fell. Dan. 5:25.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 8, 2009 @ 2:37 am
Continuing with the theme of Hasan/Ft. Worth, please see this link Everything About Nidal Malik Hasan Screams “Patsy” which puts forth that the Ft. Worth massacre (like the 911 tower event) was globalist-inspired to further the New World Order agenda….out of chaos, (New World) order. Note particularly this comment by OhCrapNotAgain:
Comment by Teshuvah — November 8, 2009 @ 2:59 am
“teshuvah” you are wrong.
if you truly want to honor G-d then you must do several things:
stop using a sacred hebrew word as your name, because you are a xn.
now, if you are in fact born a jew, you must abandon all xnity and return to judaism. jewsforjudaism.org has people who will talk to you and clarify for you. use your traditional birth-given jewish name, if you were born a jew, to a jewish mother, a real jewish mother.
if you are born a xn, then you must stop distorting the jewish teachings.
trying to distinguish between the rodents (jews for cheeses) and ‘messy-antic’ judaism is b.s.
you are desecrating this site and any other jewish place by bringing the words of the xn founder.
it is a DESECRATION to do this. nothing less. jews who accept those words demonstrate a lack of torah education and need to be taught.
hey, where is anne regan when we need her?
one cannot come into a jewish place with words of idolatry. sorry, no compromise.
besides violence against jews or other innocents, i abhor the messy-antic ravings and distortionists who disguise their crap with “torah and love for israel”. it is insidiously deceptive and dangerous.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 4:03 am
for the infiltraitor, “teshuvah” who desecrates the sacred traditions of our people, polluting this site:
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=18097#comments
So-called Messianic Judaism employs a strategy of superficially adopting Jewish ritual practices in order to “look Jewish” while surreptitiously engaging in missionary activities. Its proponents establish congregations purporting to be Jewish, but loudly proclaim that belief in Jesus is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy – all in an effort to deceive poorly educated and unaffiliated Jews into joining their ranks.
Theologically, messianic Judaism is merely fundamentalist Protestantism with a superficial overlay of Jewish customs and traditions, and the membership of its congregations is primarily Gentile. Moreover, its “rabbis” are Christian missionaries with no rabbinical training or authority and, often, no Jewish heritage. At its core, the messianic movement’s theology is Christian, and represents a philosophical and intellectual dichotomy that is irreconcilable. So many aspects of Christianity are antithetical to Judaism that any movement claiming to integrate both belief systems is internally flawed and incongruent.
But the irreconcilable theological conflicts are of no concern for proponents of the messianic cult because their goal is purely and simply to convert Jews to Christianity. Their co-option and misuse of Jewish customs and traditions, their attempts – largely unsuccessful – to ingratiate themselves to local federations, and their bogus claims to represent a legitimate segment of the Jewish community despite their lack of halachic standing or Jewish ancestry, are simply the cynical and deceitful means to a dishonest end. Any inroads they make are blazed almost exclusively amongst Jews with weak backgrounds and little education who don’t have the tools to understand that the cult is not Judaism.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 4:12 am
i won’t back down on this: “teshuva” whoever the hell you are.
1. stop desecrating our sacred language with the distortion of your “name”
2. if you were born a jew, go to jewsforjudaism, and stop all association or use of xn language.
3. if you were born a xn, stop your proselytizing of jewish people in all ways including this disgusting deceitful manner.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 4:15 am
and,
if you were born a jew, or convert to orthodox judaism, and properly return,
you will be welcomed by the jewish people, including me.
however, this distortion must stop particularly on this JEWISH website.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 4:17 am
The only ones coming to you now in the Name of the Lord are the Christian Zionists and they support G-d’s restoration of Israel. If you curse rather than bless those, as you do on this thread, then G-d will instead give you Muslims who want to kill you. Big choice but still your choice.
You have not read the links I put in #21, first paragraph, or your level of comprehension falls short of what is required to understand those articles.
I do not like to get into heated, emotional debates. It is too much like fighting which I hate. The emotional level of your comments is way over the top which leads me to think you are a woman. I am not trying to convert. Believe whatever you choose.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 8, 2009 @ 5:07 am
Re: #20
There is nothing wrong with Christianity for Christians, just as there is nothing wrong with a skirt on a woman. If I put on a skirt, though, people would probably think there was something wrong with me (unless the “skirt” was plaid, made of wool, and had a sporran in front, in which case they would think I was from Scotland).
Missionaries are not going to blow us up while chanting “Jesus Saves,” and we can say No to them politely. We cannot say “No” to an Islamofascist’s bomb or bullet. We should in fact help the missionaries convert militant “Muslims” to Christianity. We should get Jack Chick to print millions of his tracts in Arabic and distribute them all over the Middle East. Jews are not allowed to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, but non-Jews like Muslims are. It should be encouraged as widely as possible.
Comment by Bill Levinson — November 8, 2009 @ 5:48 am
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/OlegCartoon.jpg
Barry is in good company, I see.
Comment by Bill Levinson — November 8, 2009 @ 5:48 am
A- Many support those who do want to blow us up and give aid and comfort to them through their support politically and financially through NGO’s.
B- The end result between those (Muslims) who kill Jews physically and those who would see Judaism replaced spiritually is in the end the same. No Jews.
In both instances they are attacking the Jews. In the first instance we can shoot back and hopefully kill them. In the second instance they are spiritual predators and in the long run more dangerous and insidious than the Muslims.
What they have in common is that ea believe they are Judaisms replacements. You concede the purposes of ea. but negate the threat and importance of the second in the survival of Jews. That is not surprising to me at least as your connection to anything Jewish is serendipitous at best and non existent at worst. Therefore your opinion on the matter is inconsequential. Your concern is America and support Israel in so far as you believe it serves American interests. Jewish interest and concerns for you are not even on your radar if it conflicts in any way with your primary concerns.
I don’t have exact figures of how many Jews over the last two generations have been lost to us to Christianity and I don’t think there are any reliable statistics. Some say More Jews have migrated to eastern religions like Buddhism than Christianity. This may be true but Buddhists are not about replacing Judaism and don’t spend billions of dollars in trying to destroy Judaism.
American Jews — numbered at 5,200,000 strong in 2000 — constitute the second largest and the most influential Jewish community in the World. Yet, that figure hardly provides the objective observer with any insight as to the community’s future viability. To glimpse such an insight, one must examine those twin scourges of Jewish life — Love and Hate, more formally known as Assimilation and Antisemitism.
The United Jewish Communities’ “National Jewish Population Survey 2000″ — a decennial demographic study — found that, due to a negative net birthrate (i.e., Jewish deaths exceeded Jewish births for that period), America’s Jewish population had declined by 300,000 souls from 1990 to 2000. This translates to an average net loss of 82 Jews per day for that decade. This is hardly surprising in light of the study’s finding that 70% of Jewish women in the United States between the ages of 25 and 29 were childless.
The study also discovered that, due to an ongoing intermarriage rate in excess of 50%, of all children under the age of 12 with Jewish parentage in the United States, less than half have two Jewish parents. Of the more than half with a gentile parent, (according to other surveys) only a quarter thereof will be raised as Jews. Of these, only a small minority will marry other Jews, as it will be almost impossible for an intermarried Jew, however sincere, to convince his or her child to do what he or she failed to do, namely: marry a fellow Jew.
However, Assimilation and a low birth rate are not the only problems facing the American Jewish community. In its June 2002 “Survey Of Antisemitism In America” the Anti-Defamation League found that one third of all Americans believe that Jews have “dual loyalties” (i.e., they are potentially treasonous) and that one fifth of all Americans believe that Jews have “too much power in the U.S. today” (i.e., they are potentially dangerous). Ironically, it was once perversely believed that the multiplicity of ethnic groups inhabiting America — constituting a plethora of inviting targets for the majority population’s hostility — would provide a bulwark against an obsessive hatred of American Jews. Instead, it seems that at least some of these immigrants simply brought their Jew-hatred with them, thereby finding at least some common ground with those Americans who had arrived before them.
The Message is clear. The American Exile will end, whether by Assimilation or Antisemitism — more likely, by a combination of both.
When the nation-state of Israel was resurrected in 1948, it was home to a mere 5% of World Jewry. Today, it constitutes the largest Jewish community in the World, and is home to well over 40% of World Jewry. And Israel’s Jewish community is the only one in the World with a positive net birthrate.
Due to ongoing terrorism and the enduring hostility of much of the World, Israel may not seem safe for the individual Jew. Yet, it is the only country in the World that is safe for the collective Jew.
Again, the Message is clear. If the Jewish people are to have a Future, it will only be found in Israel. American Jews can either be a part of that Future, or they can simply disappear.
At 5,200,000 strong, American Jewry will not vanish overnight. But its days are numbered! The trend is irreversible.
In Jewish thought and history, Christian missionaries may be considered to be synonymous with Amalek! But if for no other reason we should remember all of our ancestors and their memories who died at the stake and rack rather than succumb to forced conversions by loving Christians throughout the past 15 centuries.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 8:59 am
Yamit, it’s like watching reruns.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 8, 2009 @ 10:14 am
yamit,
By googling a line of that piece I found the source: THE VANISHING AMERICAN JEW. That is what Mark Rosenblit thinks. Do you also believe that?
There may be some liberal Christians who support Palestinians wrongly, but you have Jewish groups that do the same. When liberal Lutheran Christians endorsed homosexuality a few months ago, G-d sent a tornado and tore down their steeple. He is certainly aware there are apostate Christians and can deal with them. You and I know Martin Luther was false so I’ll skip that issue.
Lutherans Endorse Homosexuality God Sends Tornado!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALk1z5euBxI
You wrote:
Who does that? Actually the U.S. government gives all sorts of aid to Palestinians and other Muslims which goes to buy weapons to destroy Israel. Evil financiers of governments advance by funding both sides of a war.
You may not have noticed but the U.S. government has conservative Christians currently identified as terrorists instead of Muslims being so identified. See Homeland Security on guard for ‘right-wing extremists’ and the Homeland Security document, Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.
What group thinks that way? Christians! Now who is the threat and who is threatened?
Most Christians support Israel, vehemently oppose a two-state solution and Islam unreservedly. It isn’t just Jewish lives at stake, it is a matter of Islam against the whole world. Islam has started a world war and it isn’t going to finish until the G-d restores Israel and comes back. With the current threat of martial law and the much talked about FEMA concentration camps, there may be another Holocaust on the horizon and this time it will be Jews AND Christians.
Chuck Baldwin — Why Are Internment Camps Being Built?
Chuck Baldwin was a third party candidate for U.S. President and knows what is going on.
Romans 2:9-11 refers to …the Jew first, and also of the Gentile. …For there is no respect of persons with God.
Today feels like 1938.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 8, 2009 @ 10:28 am
More christian anti-Semitic crap. You’ll find the same vicious, obscene and unjustified onslaught earlier, in Matthew 23:13-36. Christian history has shown that the church never would have given a fraction of the latitude to any dissenter, compared to what the Jews put up with from jesus (assuming that he actually existed in the first place). This jesus came and spoke freely, insulted and provoked many. These verses are ascribed by many as being one of many interpolations added to gospel manuscripts, after frustrated church clergymen couldn’t succeed in ramming their pagan beliefs down Jews’ throats.
Zechariah the prophet was born 500 years before jesus. Blaming the Jews 500 years later for Zechariah’s death is like blaming Englishmen today for the terrible things Henry the VIII did in his time.
What a load of tripe!
Comment by Shy Guy — November 8, 2009 @ 10:54 am
okay, “teshuvah” it appears you are not a jew, not born of a jewish mother.
if that’s the case you are endangering yourself by bringing such avodah zara words into this web page.
i hope that ted will block you.
you have no right to do it. it is the vilest insidious imposition on jewish souls.
but, in your selfish, delusional, arrogant world, you can’t tell the difference
i did what i could strongly and yet with a good intention to try to clarify.
but now, unfortunately, you have shown your true colors.
you have been warned. if you are a xn and want to read and comment on israpundit, nobody is stopping you. there are xns here who do so w/o a problem
however, to bring in your duplicitous “identity”, the choice of your ‘name’ is an anathema to me and any conscious jew, is beyond disgusting.
i refuse to let my eyes see such trash and pollution.
may G-d protect all the jewish souls reading israpundit and may ted prohibit you from posting any commetns here as long as you use that name and that content.
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to levinson: you do great work for israel and are very devoted. however, you need to understand that the words and ideas from xnity have no place by a jewish soul or a jewish webpage. period. it is not healthy in the least and it is not something that can simply be glossed over.
if you don’t agree i encourage you to research the subject with a local chabad or other qualified orthodox rav.
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yamit, i will not back down. nor will i continue to debate that clown with the deceptive name.
jewish people have to stand up to such avodah zara in our midst. i will not tolerate it.
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if i choose to no longer comment or read israpundit, i wish kol am yirael the best, may we all return to torah and to yerushalayim. amein.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 11:20 am
This “debate” clearly reminds me of Islamic websites where even the faintest critical remark about Muslims is immediately drowned in a tsunami of irrelevant attacks on Jews and Christians.
With enough such “academic,” religious and political suicide bombers in Israel, the country will be an Inslamic republic bfore dawn, which solves the issue of a one- or two state future for the Jewish nation.
Comment by Per — November 8, 2009 @ 11:36 am
Bugsy, If I may? This is not a Jewish site, Ted is very ecumenical and welcomes Christians, Muslims and Sikhs. He is in the Promotion of Israel business and I think anyone who he believes is for Israel has a place for his voice to be heard. Even some antisemites are allowed to comment here. That can be explained by A- Teds most liberal definition of what and who is a Jew hater and B- maybe he feels they lend a counterpoint to most of our normal discussions.
Bugsy I can’t speak of Israpundits readership in general but I think there are as many if not more non Jews commenting here than Jews and of those Jews few are observant Jews. Only 3 or 4 of us are commenting from Israel itself.
Don’t confuse here two different concepts: Jewish and Israel. This site is mostly about support for Israel as opposed to support for Jews per-se. That’s how I understand it’s Rason d’etre.
Personally I like most of the Christian commenter’s here more than many of the so called Jews. Many can run rings around you and me in their knowledge of Tanach in general. They have problems of interpretations and nuance but many know their literal bible, and try to live according to what and how they understand it. The Jews here are another kettle of fish.
Rav Kahane. H’YD, would describe some as the arrogance of ignorance.
Our biggest problems are not with most of the Christians who comment here but the Jews themselves. It has always been the Jews who are our own worst enemies.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 12:22 pm
Per, nice to see you back after you self imposed hiatus. I always found your comments to be informative , well grounded and you have never been offensive to Jewish sensitivities: I add Soren to this category.
Checked out your site and am impressed.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
Not to worry this is what Jews are about, we have it down to a pseudo science.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 12:44 pm
Kahane Chai! On the 19th Anniversary of His Tragic Death
http://israeljewishnews.blogspot.com/
B”H
This is a beautiful tribute to H’Rav Kahane by one of his most loyal and closest supporters on the anniversary of his death, 19 years ago, at the hands of an arab terrorist who was never fully held responsible for his crime.
It is believed that the murder of Rabbi Kahane was the first Al Queda attack on US soil, but it was never fully investigated. If it had been, perhaps 9/11 would not have happened.
Since his senseless murder, his political organization, Kach, was banned by the Knesset as “racist,” and named by the US state department as a “terrorist organization” even though they have never been connected to a terrorist attack of any kind.
Rabbi Kahane was not a racist. He was a pragmatist. He knew that the arabs would never be happy living “side by side” with Jews in the land of Israel. He knew they would never settle for anything less than the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people.
As I am writing this, the Israeli authorities are continuing to unpack a ship full of arms sent from Iran to Hezbullah for the purpose of attacking Israel. Hamas terrorists in Gaza are importing weapons through tunnels, and test-firing missiles that can hit Tel Aviv.
M
Kahane Chai! On the 19th Anniversary of His Tragic Death
by Shifra Hoffman
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/9134
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 12:50 pm
yamit,
i stated that i have no problem w/xns on this site, or pro-israel sites, provided they don’t promote a conversion agenda or quote their book.
my issue is with those who a)deceive people b)proselytize and esp c) those who do both as messy-antics. it is an anathema to me, and should be to any conscious jew.
the difference between this and other sites is that there is a dialogue. it is most certainly up to ted to do what he deems fit. however, i can’t tolerate messy-antics or deceptive people who use sacred hebrew words for a name, while promoting a xn agenda, ch’v.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
re kahane;
must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9_ZiTovRAs
kahane vs kibbutznikim
they chant death to arabs/kibbutznikim and he doesn’t stop them. he calls the kibbutzniks ‘murderers’.
although he did some positive things. i can’t support someone like that.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 1:27 pm
lastly, the jews are not our own worst enemies, ch’v.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 1:28 pm
The Haradim have said worse things, at least Kahane spoke the truth. Compare him w/ these parasites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w0_bJNIZTs&feature=related
These are Jews? I’ll take Christians and Muslims over these ……!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oeB3QhX2RI&feature=related
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 5:26 pm
This weakens my emunah because I don’t understand why the Ribbono Shel Olam doesn’t open a sewer manhole cover under this guy’s feet and swallow him up.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 8, 2009 @ 5:35 pm
Bugsy I believe you are very naive.
Here are some deserving Jews Hitler missed but shouldn’t have:
Rabbis against the existence of Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6rh79OKVQ&feature=related
Even if some of their beliefs have some truth Jewish collective overrides all and they should be shot as Jewish traitors.
We do the mitzvot because Hashem commanded us to do them. Especially when it comes to the mitzvah that the entire Torah is based on – the mitzvah of living in the Land of Israel.
Thank G-d that the brave and holy pioneers that returned to settle Eretz Yisrael in the last century did not say, “We won’t come as long as there are Turks, and swamps, and mosquitoes in the Land.”
More than a hundred years ago, the unsurpassed Torah giant, The Gaon of Vilna, sent his students to settle the Land even though the journey was filled with danger, on sea and on land. He sent them even though the Turkish rulers in Israel were corrupt through and through.
Yes, the politicians leading today’s government in Israel are corrupt. But thank G-d there are Jews ruling here, and not Christians, Moslems, and Buddhists. Thank G-d that G-d has brought us back to our homeland, out from the exile of foreign lands. Thank G-d that we have the opportunity to fix things that need fixing.
There are two types of commandments in the Torah – the commandments that are dependent upon the Land of Israel, and those commandments which are not. Every commandment which depends upon the Land of Israel may only be performed in the Land. The other mitzvot can be performed anywhere (Kiddushin 36B). However, the Ramban teaches that the true place of performance for all of the commandments is only in the Land of Israel (Ramban, Commentary on the Torah, Bereshit, 26:5; Devarim, 11:18). Everywhere else, when a Jew performs a commandment, he is merely going through the motions so that he won’t forget how to do them during his exile in foreign lands (Sifre, Ekev, 11:18, and Rashi, Devarim, 11:18. Also, Ramban there).
Rashi quotes the Midrash: “Even though I am exiling you from Eretz Yisrael to outside of the Land, distinguish yourself with the commandments, so that when you return, they will not seem new in your eyes” (Sifre, Ekev, 11:18). Rashi comments: “This is like a king who became angry at his wife and sent her away. He said to her, ‘Wear your jewelry so it won’t seem new to you when you return to the palace.’ Thus HaKadosh Baruch Hu says to Israel, ‘My sons, distinguish yourselves with precepts so that when you return, they won’t be new to you” (Rashi, Devarim, 11:18).
The true, G-d given place for the commandments is in Eretz Yisrael. Their purpose in the exile is to keep us attached to the Torah, so that when we return, they won’t seem unfamiliar and new. But the main place for their performance is in Israel. The Land of Israel is not just our geographical homeland, it is the foundation of all of the Torah and Jewish observance.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 5:53 pm
Yamit, Uncle Nahum does one think the return of the Jews to the Holy Land was by accident?
Out numbered by her enimies successfully defending her sovereign rights in several wars, was this by accident?
If you are a gambler I would say Vegas odd makers would side with Devine Intervention.
Comment by rongrand — November 8, 2009 @ 6:10 pm
rongrand:
Ronny baby: In recognition of your enormous contributions to us all, THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, we are prepared to declare you an honorary Jew- and we will go the WHOLE NINE YARDS. Rabbi Yamit-AKA uncle Nahum will administer the penile chop. Will someone get the cleaver.
Comment by h peskin — November 8, 2009 @ 9:24 pm
yamit, with all your knowledge you have much to learn about ‘vahavta lereacha kamocha’ and ‘ahavat yisrael’. read the chassidic rebbes, reb nachman etc. they are all extremely clear that speaking ill of any jew is bad for the speaker and for all of am yisrael. it is a very deep but also simple concept. we are all one body. our goal is to bring people back. or to make tikkunim. if a jew does bad, we of course condemn the action but not the person.
i won’t debate you on this. the essence of my issue here is not kahane. he did many good things also.
my issue was what i stated in several comments re deceptive people who comment.
Comment by bugsy — November 8, 2009 @ 10:03 pm
I know what I would use that cleaver for: A certain penile neck of a certain cretin who has as much right to exist as a cockroach. Sorry, a cockroach has more of a right as it is benign and harmless.
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 10:08 pm
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Bugsy I don’t want to offend you by teaching you where you are mistaken. . Sorry, REACHA, refers to a fellow Jew like you, cmo, like in that you both share the same values and beliefs. Does it refer to say Bernie Madoff? A Jewish murderer of other Jews? A George Soros? Jewish rapists, apostate Jews? Etc….!
For you Bugsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzFUxAANCWs&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDC0Bqyc-2w&feature=related
‘vahavta lereacha kamocha’
These Jews we Love!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMdOuS-ArTo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bOclbE_eg
SEE WHAT YOU ARE MISSING?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeRJCUthC4w&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Comment by yamit82 — November 8, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
Yamit, Uncle Nahum what the hell is peskns problem?
With major crisis and issues facing Israel and her people that need to be addressed this site does not need an agitator peskin.
Comment by rongrand — November 9, 2009 @ 2:33 am
rongrand:
Ron, you are not a bad egg, but you are so boringly predictable,I could die. You are so busy brown nosing and sucking up to everyone, it is tooo much. Get a life.
Comment by h peskin — November 9, 2009 @ 4:30 am
Ron, say something predictable. And again. And again.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 9, 2009 @ 6:37 am
“I could die”, “I could die”, “I could die”, “I could die”, “I could die”: NU already, we are waiting !!!
Comment by yamit82 — November 9, 2009 @ 8:17 am
yamit, and kol yisrael po:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJbpHVG8EVM
thanks for the videos, they are great.
re ahavat yisroel. you are correct, people like those you mentioned do not deserve our support. i was speaking in a more general sense. esp during a time of crisis like we are facing at this time.
ultimately, it’s a matter of focus. our energy has to be constantly re-directed to torah, mitzvos and ahavas yisroel. this unity is our shield that strengthens us w/Hashem.
the people who daven, who do deeds of tzedaka and chesed are just as important as the IDF.
we are all together on this. may H’ help us, from jerusalem, and may the King answer us on the day we call.
Comment by bugsy — November 9, 2009 @ 9:20 am
Has anyone noticed.
peskin is:
anti-Semitic
anti-Jewish
anti-Israel
anti-Zionist
anti-Yamit
anti-tov
anti-shyguy
anti-bugsy
anti-Laura
anti-ron
Time to ignor this anti-whatever
Comment by rongrand — November 9, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
it’s up to ted who he includes here. personally, i think ‘free speech’ stops with duplicity and hatespeech. i would cancel peskin,blandoatmeal, “teshuva” etc. but, i’m not ted and it’s not my site. perhaps he lets them post to create dialogue. i don’t know. there are many sites/blogs who do monitor and delete/block certain comments. disagreement is one thing; hate and deception(”teshuva”) is another.
btw, the sacred word “teshuva” in hebrew means both ‘answer’ and more importantly ‘repentance/return to G-d’. it is an extremely important word in the jewish tradition. i urge readers to tell ted that they will not tolerate the “messyantic” xn who deceptively uses that name, a place to spew their deception on this site. i think xns are welcome to post, but not those who proselytize.
but, to get to the theme of this piece:
see fox’s commentary on the filth who praise hasan in nyc, “revolution muslim”. they should be jailed for incitement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vU9lwJ_5JY&feature=related
Comment by bugsy — November 9, 2009 @ 2:17 pm
Bugsy they are not mutually exclusive. One may daven, do deeds of tzedaka and chesed and still serve the nation in it’s defense.
The Mitzvah of Military Service
by Michelle Nevada
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4_OmBEc7iU8/Siv2ohZcEwI/AAAAAAAABbo/b-94vAVJuw8/s320/Torah.jpg
It is matter of general agreement that Israel owes its very existence to Divine Intervention. There were just too many nations against us at our inception, during our major wars, and at the apex of each moment to reach any other conclusion.
We are blessed.
At the center of that blessing is the idea that no war may be fought without two types of “soldiers” in the fight: those who fight with weapons and those who fight with prayer. We learn this important lesson in Exodus 17: 11, when the war against Amalek cannot succeed without Moshe’s blessing:
However, the Torah also makes clear that serving to protect and defend the people of Israel is equated with loyalty to G-d. For example, when the tribes of Gad, Reuven and half of Menashe wanted to settle east of the Jordan river, Moshe rebukes them because he thinks they are trying to avoid military service:
He goes on to equate the possible avoidance of military service with turning against G-d. He accuses them of being no better than the spies who forced the people to wander for 40 years in the desert:
Moshe is not satisfied until he extracts a promise from the tribes of Gad, Reuven and half of Menashe that they will serve in war against Israel’s enemies.
Unfortunately, many of our current scholars have remembered the lesson that Israel needs scholars, and have forgotten the lesson that failing to defend our nation is equal to the sin of the spies.
Right now there are far too many young men studying in yeshiva in lieu of serving in the IDF, and I don’t believe that all of them are needed in that capacity.
Right now, over 50,000 students are exempt from military service—an unprecedented number and one clearly out of sync with the importance of military service in the history of our Nation.
You want Jewish Unity then I suggest that every male Jew in the exile serve in the IDF for at least two years regardless if they make aliyah or not. Call it a Jewish Obligation or obligatory tithe.
Having our 50000 exemptions serve in the IDF and those from chutz l’aretz, would trasform the IDF into a more Jewish Army and have a significant positive influence on the nature to the State of Israel. It would almost single handedly insure that there will be no more Gush Katifs and no evacuations of the Shomron and Yehuda areas. That is quite a significant reason to serve. It could insure Har habayit remains under our sovereignty not to mention Jerusalem.
the army would be forced to recognize the need to understand Jewish law and apply it appropriately within the ranks. The IDF would have to become much more aware of the decisions they make and how those decisions square with Halaka—decisions such as orders of expulsion against Jews, performing tasks not absolutely necessary to the protection of life on Shabbat and holidays, and the integration of men and women into the same units.
Placing tens of thousands of Haredim into the ranks would be the end of placing men and women into the same units, and the beginning of the IDF admitting it has NEVER treated men and women the same way. Most of the women receive inferior weapons, training, and opportunity even when they serve in the same units with men. Perhaps, if women are in separate units from the men, the training and opportunities for women will improve because they will receive equal funding.
Last, and probably most important, the Haredim would receive needed training in the planning, implementation, and execution of modern military operations including the use of modern weapons, weapons systems, aircraft, and naval vessels. These skills are essential. Without this training, the religious sector doesn’t have a chance of succeeding to secure Israel against the mounting international pressure to surrender our holy sites, our land, and our heritage to our enemies.
Although many Haredim may think that military training is somehow beneath them or would somehow infect them with unholiness (although it was never beneath our Patriarchs, Prophets, and Sages), they need this training desperately. They may not know it yet, but once they are trained, they will thank Hashm from the center of their souls for the opportunity to participate in the protection of our Holy Land.
Those yeshiva students, above all others, should realize that Hashm is in charge, even when a secular Supreme Court may be making the decisions.
Remember the lesson of Balaam! Even when our enemies try to curse us, they will bless us!
Michelle Nevada
http://israeljewishnews.blogspot.com/2009/06/mitzvah-of-military-service.html
This could be you and your friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT_Z2Ztehy0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vucV8qWjBpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh8IVVroK04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MadtzYUOkXg&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Mcb8VKxOQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MuNmlMsgIk&feature=related
Comment by yamit82 — November 9, 2009 @ 3:51 pm
Yamit, Uncle Nahum I tend to agree with you on this. Israel doesn’t have the population to support an all voluntary service. However, let it be said Israel should be very proud of those that have taken on this obligation and through their unselfish efforts have protected Israel today and one can say they all are driven by Devine Intervention.
Comment by rongrand — November 9, 2009 @ 4:20 pm
correct, they are not mutually exclusive.
my point was jews everywhere, not only ba’aretz, who do mitzvos, torah study, etc all contribute to israel’s security. as you know, our deeds here have an effect in heaven that we can’t comprehend, but we know it’s significant
Comment by bugsy — November 9, 2009 @ 8:43 pm
The Religious Jew
Written by Rabbi Meir Kahane
The “religious” Jew? Nay, say rather the Orthodox practitioner of Jewish ritual whose sojourn in an exile two millenia old has corrupted and and perverted the most basic of real Jewish values. Bearded and piously payotic, or cleanshaven and woolly-skullcapped, they join with all the others in the ecumenical worship of the Golden Calf of our times: The Golden Exile.
Israel? Go up to the Land of Israel? Go up to the Land to which they turn in prayer three times daily - meticulously; never missing a ritual? Go up to the Land concerning which they shed hot tears every Tisha B’Av, anniversary of the national day of national mourning? Actually uproot themselves from the Exile and go dwell in the Zion and Jerusalem they piously seek every year, “next year?”
But the chandeliers and the expensive shaitel wig and the quicksand that is the good life are far more powerful than commandments.
“And they scorned the desirable land…” Psalm 106
And so they invent all kinds of rationales, all cloaked in a tallit that is all blue. “Israel is also Exile…” “This is not the beginning of the redemption, merely the footsteps of the Messiah…”
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Nothing moves the “religious…” they have been inordinately twisted and corrupted by twenty centuries of abnormality. One simply cannot live as a minority for twenty centuries, two thousand years, supping at other’s tables, pleading for a smile, a tolerant act, love, and remain normal. One cannot live in a stranger’s home and remain stable. A minority must, of necessity, inherit insecurities, complexes, fear, instability. A minority must, of necessity, be exposed to and influenced by the majority culture that insidiously enters, corrupts, changes, lays its permanent hand on Judaism, so that the Jew assumes the Gentile value and assumes too, that it is Jewish.”
And no one can remain normal without a state, a nation, a concept of nationhood and statehood The religion that was totally intertwined with land and earth and nation and power becomes a pale vapid set of rituals. When roots have lost their hold on the land, they slowly die of malnutrition.
And so, they discover a new Zion and a New Jerusalem in the filth and impurity of the Exile. They immerse themselves in a ritualarium even as they wave high the impure creeping creature. They become Americans or Englishmen or Frenchmen or Canadians of Mosaic piety, deeply pious piety. They stand firmly on the barricades to insure that their meat shall be more than merely kosher; that the gorgeous wig shall cover the rather plain woman as she wears her very expensive dress that overshadows her neighbor, but which properly covers the elbow as she installs her chandelier; that they shall live in the comfort of the swine and not have to risk the sufferings of the pure in Eretz Yisrael.
The Jew waits. He waits to be a victim, twice over.
By Rabbi Meir Kahan
Comment by yamit82 — November 9, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
Bugsy, If I might be presumptuous, before you get too deeply into Talmud, first learn Tanach.
Comment by yamit82 — November 9, 2009 @ 10:41 pm
UNITY AMONG JEWS?
Israels Next War PBS documentary:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/1_hi.html
CHAPTER ONE
Among the”Hilltop People”
They’re a new group of young radical Jewish settlers who have illegally occupied over 100 remote outposts in the West Bank since 2000. They identify with the Kahanist ideology that calls for violent Jewish self-defense and expelling all Arabs from the Holy Land
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/2_hi.html?wm
CHAPTER TWO
A Plot That Shocked All of Israel
What began as a chance arrest one night became the biggest breakthrough in the Security Services’ battle against Jewish terrorists. Members of a terror cell in the settlement of Bat Ayin are caught trying to bomb a girls’ school in East Jerusalem at the busiest time in the morning
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/3_hi.html?wm
CHAPTER THREE
The Kahanists
Noam Federman, leader of one of the outlawed Kahanist party’s splinter groups, trains his followers to get through police interrogation. Another Kahanist leader, American-born Mike Guzovsky of The Jewish Legion, works to pass on Meir Kahane’s teachings to a new generation.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/4_hi.html?wm
CHAPTER FOUR
Epilogue
The final sentences, or acquittals, in the Bat Ayin terror cell bomb plot. And how Noam Federman and a number of his comrades held out against the Security Services despite months of administrative arrest. They’re now back among their supporters.
Comment by yamit82 — November 9, 2009 @ 11:38 pm
This is horrible! I wish Kahane and his family were here to witness such an atrocity! This sickens me to the core!We must destroy these pathetic excuses for people!By the way Kahane was a brilliant man, we shoud avenge his and his son’s death!
Comment by tov — November 10, 2009 @ 2:24 am
yamit, i’m going to stop now. for all your ‘knowledge’ you really can come accross very badly indeed.
i learn chumash. i don’t learn talmud yet.
it is wrong, patently wrong to lambast religious jews. even the ones in golus who have not made aliyah.
nearly 80 percent of american jews voted for the commie muzzie criminal in the whitehouse. they need serious education.
i wish you the best, but i just won’t deal with this any longer.
Comment by bugsy — November 10, 2009 @ 5:40 am
You clearly don’t know Tanach.
Nor Talmud.
Nor Rambam.
Nor Sefer HaKuzari.
Nor Eim Hababanim Smeicha.
But to name a few.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 10, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
Yamit, Uncle Nahum I thought I was begining to understand all about Jews (which I think is impossible) and the more I see (read) here I am as baffled as ever.
It’s hard to understand why and how there is a division amongst the people of G-d.
I can only imagine the benefits if there was unification.
Just maybe unity would bring about the building of the Third Temple.
I am certain that would please G-d.
Comment by rongrand — November 10, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
rongrand:
Ronny: Your loving uncle Nahum is just coming off a bender and so he asked me to respond on his behalf.
The contract between G-d and his previosly chosen people was irrevocably abrogated in 1941 when the Almighty failed to heed the prayers of the victims of the death camps of Dachau,Buchenwald and Aushwitz.
A new contract has been negotiated and completed with His current chosen- The Scientologists- with His Holiness, Tom Cruise as his Prophet.
Comment by h peskin — November 10, 2009 @ 10:17 pm
Devarim - Deuteronomy - Chapter 30
15. Behold, I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil,But if your heart deviates and you do not listen, and you will be drawn astray, and you will prostrate yourself to other deities and serve them,I declare to you this day, that you will surely perish, and that you will not live long days on the land, to which you are crossing the Jordan, to come and take possession thereof This day, I call upon the heaven and the earth as witnesses [that I have warned] you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. You shall choose life, so that you and your offspring will live; To love the Lord your G-d, to listen to His voice, and to cleave to Him. For that is your life and the length of your days, to dwell on the land which the Lord swore to your forefathers to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob to give to them..
It is easy to justify the Holocaust from the divine point of view. He warned Jews repeatedly; we have prophecies and precedents. By far, most of the Jews who perished would have perished anyway in a generation or two, peacefully, in the ovens of assimilation. It is telling that the Holocaust started in Germany, the birthplace of reformism, the Jewish assimilationist movement. It afterwards wiped out the residents of European countries who remained Jewish only in their names, and often changed their names, too.
Their morality decomposed by the fear endemic to the Exile, those Jews could not and should not be allowed to enter the Promised Land: we have enough problems with leftist defeatists and couldn’t afford seven million Jews with no fighting spirit. The generation of the Exodus likewise died before entering the Promised Land.
European Jews committed the incredible sin of refusing to move to the Promised Land as soon as they had an opportunity in the early twentieth century. They posed a tremendous threat to Judaism, they perverted the Torah centered on the Holy Land. Judaism is the Jewish way of life, and that includes Jewish statehood, Jewish army, and Jewish isolation; but they made Judaism into a religion, and you can observe it in Boro Park today. Their Judaism became a religion of Sabbath rites and yeshivas, not the way of the real life.
The perversion had to be removed. I understand all that. G-d is undoubtedly wise and acted correctly—but he is not merciful, as the generation of the Holocaust can testify.
The High Priest Aaron probably felt the same way as Peskin after G-d killed his two sons for no reason; Aaron continued sanctifying the Tent of Meeting, but could not eat of the sacrifices. I don’t harbor illusions about idealistic justice. I’m a realist: whatever God defines as just, is just. The ways of the world are just because that is how justice is defined.
The Jewish concept of love, is less romantic than in European poetry. Jews are commanded to love G-d, but he also loves them—apparently with no romantic connotations. We must love our neighbors, and a Psalmist “loves the law.” The slave may ignominiously choose to remain with his master, whom he “loves.” The Hebrew word is best rendered as “longing” or “attaching oneself to someone or something,” such as in Ecclesiastes 5:9: “He who longs for money will not be satisfied with money.” It is a sensible notion that Jews should attach themselves to G-d, and he likewise attaches himself to the chosen people. But there is no love in the modern sense.
The Diaspora Jews lost not only pride and common sense, but the will to live. Jewish establishment is bent on presenting the Jews as victims and does not allow the ugly side out: we allowed ourselves to be slaughtered like sheep, not killed like humans.
Jews of Holocaust are guilty of profaning God’s name by submitting to their murderers. There are, however, extenuating circumstances: a history of anti-Semitism, recent persecutions and often pogroms made Jews prepared for death; Germans and their Latvian, Ukrainian accomplices crushed the Jews’ self-respect before murdering us; in many cases, the lethal prospects were concealed and Jews imagined salvation until it was too late. Israeli Jews lack any of those excuses. NEVER AGAIN!!
Comment by yamit82 — November 11, 2009 @ 12:55 am
There is another form of holocaust other than the genocide of Jews:
Currently 72% of the Jewish people today are
intermarrying We lose approximately 100 Jews everyday to
intermarriage and assimilation.
*amongst non-orthodox American Jews
50% of all Jewish college students have one Jewish parent
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INTERMARRIAGE STATISTICS
“Our grandparents prayed for a melting pot. What they got instead was a meltdown!” - Rabbi Ephraim Buchwald, Founder, National Jewish Outreach Program
North America’s Jewish population faces a disturbing set of trends that threatens the viability of Judaism on this continent in the next century—The J2K (Jewish 2000) Problem. Unlike the persecution that the Jewish people have endured by the hands of others for over 3,000 years, Jews on this continent now face a “silent holocaust” stemming from within their very own communities and their very own households.
Today, of the approximately 6 million Jews in the United States, about 2 out of 3, either do not identify themselves Jewishly or maintain an affiliation with a synagogue. This staggering portrait of American Jewish life is perpetuated by a host of disturbing national trends, including a quickly growing rate of Jewish intermarriage, an extraordinary low birth rate, and a sharp increase in the number of children being raised as non-Jews.
In the past, Jews rallied together around a core of religious and ethnic traditions, such as synagogue affiliation, lighting of Shabbat candles and giving charity to Jewish institutions. These practices were first learned in the home and were enhanced over a lifetime of familial and communal interaction.
However today, North America’s Jewish population has experienced an internal breakdown of both the family unit and the concept of community, that have unified the Jewish people for so long. As these ancient practices and rituals disappear, so do the number of Jewish people on this continent who consider themselves Jewish. So powerful is this meltdown of Jewish life, that Judaism in America, as we have known it for the last 300 years, will likely cease to exist in the new millennium.
Consider the following statistics*:
Jewish identity is declining sharply.
Of 5.6 million Jews, 2 million American Jews live in households identified as non-Jewish
60% of Jews below 40 years of age live in households identified as non-Jewish
20% of Jews over 60 years of age live in households identified as non-Jewish
Intermarriage rates are increasing dramatically.
Before 1965, 10% of Jews who married, did so outside the faith.
Since 1985, 52% of Jews who married have done so outside the faith.
Children are being raised as non-Jews.
1 million, or 54% of all American Jewish children under the age of 18 are being raised as non-Jews or with no religion.
Fertility Rates are not high enough to replenish the religion.
The average fertility rate of American Jewish women is 1.4 children per household. The replacement level is 2.1 children.
Less emphasis is being placed on a Jewish education.
In 1962, 540,000 Jewish children were attending afternoon weekend schools, and 60,000 were enrolled in day schools. By 1990, fewer than 240,000 Jewish children attended afternoon /weekend schools and 140,000 attended day schools.
NET LOSS—220,000 Jewish children.
Traditional Shabbat observance is extremely low.
Only 36% of Jewish households light the Shabbat Candles.
Of the population that consists of people who were born Jewish and are Jewish by choice, only 11% attend synagogue weekly.
njop.org
* All Statistics taken from Council of Jewish Federations’ 1990 National Jewish Population Survey. This is the most comprehensive source of American Jewish data available
Comment by yamit82 — November 11, 2009 @ 1:17 am
ah, sigh. shy guy.
learn some hassidus. if you knew what you were saying, you wouldn’t say what you are saying.
may all of israel return to HaShem in teshuva shalema, may our prayers be heard, and may we guard ourselves completely from lashon hara (speaking badly about a fellow jew), and practice true ahavas yisroel, to help speed moshiach, bimhera v’yamenu!!!!
Comment by bugsy — November 11, 2009 @ 5:42 am
I come from strong Galitzianer and Polisher stock. I know exactly what I’m saying. Don’t worry. I’m a big fan of Reb Levi Yitchak, among many other great Saneigorim.
As Yamit pointed out, you can be as “Chasidesheh” as you want, but the moment you think your rebbe knows better than Chazal, or chooses to ignore, suppress or trivialize their words, an alarm bell should go off inside your mind. And the words to stress here are “you think”.
But “lo am ha’aretz chassid” - and I say that about myself. Go learn some core Yiddishkeit. We did not receive the Torah in 18th century Eastern Europe. Torah is what one must concentrate on, not sweet Twitter-length vortlach at the Shabbos table, said in between the gefilte fish and zemiros.
The more you learn, the more easily you can discern whether your favorite source of Jewish inspiration is really on-track with Hashem, the Avos, the Nevi’im and Chazal, or whether he’s taking you on a detour that will delay you by decades or a lifetime from arriving to your true destination.
It’s time to peer past the shtetl town limits. The Ribbono Shel Olam is giving us enough hints on the newspapers’ front page.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 11, 2009 @ 7:30 am
>>>Torah is what one must concentrate on, not sweet Twitter-length vortlach at the Shabbos table, said in between the gefilte fish and zemiros. The more you learn, the more easily you can discern whether your favorite source of …[inspiration]…
Amen and amen! The Torah is the foundation of ALL wisdom and knowledge. This week I have been listening to Psalm 119 over and over and over again. What a blessing! Law. Precepts.
Any doctrine *not* based on a solid Torah foundation will be faulty and lead many astray. Torahlessness (lawlessness) is that old religion of haatan, the fallen one who has tried to lure man away from God’s instructions from day one.
Ps 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
131 I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for thy commandments.
Ps 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
~Teshuvah, CZ
Comment by Teshuvah — November 12, 2009 @ 3:53 am
bugsy:
Teshuvah can use any name he wishes, whether his name is reflective or not of who he is. After all you use the name bugsy which is not ref….. on the other hand, I am mistaken-just as your name says who you are, to be consistent Tesh should not use—well you know what I mean…0r do you.
Comment by h peskin — November 12, 2009 @ 4:43 am
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King James Version Translation
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jewish Translation from the Hebrew
“Behold, days are coming,” says the L-rd, “when I will form with the House of Israel and with the House of Judah a new covenant.
Jesus did not come to change The Law but to fulfill it:
Matthew 5:17-19(KJV) – Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Perhaps the editing by the author of the Letter to the Hebrews was not done as carefully as initially stated.
Is the New Covenant A New Torah/Law?
What is a covenant? The American Heritage Dictionary, p. 334, Second College Edition, Houghton Mifflin Company (1991), defines covenant (the noun) as follows:
covenant n. 1. A binding agreement made between two or more persons or parties; compact. 2. Law. a. A formal sealed agreement or contract. b. A suit to recover damages for violation of such a contract.
In other words, a covenant is a contractual agreement between two parties. Concerning the case in point here, the covenant is merely the agreement made by the Children of Israel to accept and obey the Torah in return for the promises made by G-d.
The opening promise to Israel is made just before the revelation at Mount Sinai:
Exodus 19:5 - And now, if you will obey Me and keep My covenant, you shall be to Me a treasure out of all peoples, for Mine is the entire earth.
The terms of the contract consist of blessings (rewards) that would accrue by obedience and warnings and curses (consequences) that would result from disobedience. Detailed blessings in the wake of obedience are found in Leviticus 26:3-13, in Deuteronomy 11:13-25, and in Deuteronomy 28:1-14. The wages of disobedience are detailed in Leviticus 26:14-39, and again in Deuteronomy 28:15-68.
Exodus 24:3-4,7 – And Moses came and told the people all the words of the L-rd and all the ordinances, and all the people answered in unison and said, “All the words that the L-rd has spoken we will do.” And Moses wrote all the words of the L-rd, and he arose early in the morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and twelve monuments for the twelve tribes of Israel.
And he [Moses] took the Book of the Covenant [ (sefer ha'brit)] and read it for the people to hear, and they said, “All that the L-rd spoke we will do and we will hear.”
It is important to recognize that the covenant is the contractual agreement to obey the Torah and is not the Torah itself. The Torah contains the commandments that are to be obeyed, and that is why it is referred to as (sefer ha’brit), Book of the Covenant. Thus, breaking the agreement by Israel does not change or invalidate the Torah! This is an important point to remember.
The fact that this (brit hadashah), a new covenant, will not replace the Torah is emphasized by Jeremiah himself:
Jeremiah 31:32 – “For this is the covenant that I shall form with the House of Israel after those days,” says the L-rd, “I will place My Torah [ (torati)] within them, and I will inscribe it upon their heart; and I will be their G-d and they shall be a people for Me.”
The Hebrew term (torah) is used in the Hebrew Bible in two general contexts. First, it could refer to rules, doctrines, or other instructions for behavior, i.e., laws, statutes, and ordinances. Second, it could refer to the Mosaic Law, which is commonly referred to as the Torah.
The context of the Hebrew term (torati), My Torah, is unambiguous – it refers to the Torah. This is supported by the way Jeremiah uses the root noun (torah) throughout his Book, in which the noun appears on 11 occasions in various forms. The remaining ten instances of (torah) in the Book of Jeremiah are at Jeremiah 2:8, 6:19, 8:8, 9:12/[13], 16:11, 18:18, 26:4, 32:23, 44:10,23. In all ten cases the application is in the context of the Torah, as is the case in point, at Jeremiah 31:32. It is interesting to note that even the KJV translators render all 11 instances as the/my/his law, as appropriate in the individual passages, clearly indicating this is The Law, a term commonly applied by New Testament authors as a reference to the Mosaic Law, i.e., the Torah.
In Jeremiah 31:31[32], the Prophet declares the new covenant to be:
Not like the covenant that I formed with their forefathers on the day I took them by the hand to take them out of the land of Egypt, for they broke My covenant,…
How will this new covenant differ from the original Sinai covenant? The only difference between the two covenants is in where (sefer ha’brit), the Book of the Covenant resides. In the original Sinai covenant, it was placed in the mouths of the Israelites:
Exodus 13:9 - And it shall be to you for a sign upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes, in order that the Torah of the L-rd shall be in your mouth; for with a mighty hand has the L-rd brought you out of Egypt.
Christian apologists often use the phrase, “… for they broke My covenant …”, found in Jeremiah 31:32[33], to support their claim that the original Sinai covenant is no longer in force. After all, they claim, it is stated very clearly here that Israel broke the contract, and thus, the New Testament is the new covenant prophesied by Jeremiah, and it replaces the “Old Covenant/Testament”. Is this claim valid?
Evidently, those who make that claim do not understand the difference between the covenant and the Book of the Covenant, The Hebrew Bible teaches that, although the people of Israel often fell short of fulfilling their end of the agreement made at Mount Sinai and, in effect, broke the covenant, G-d has stated on many occasions that He will not break His covenant with Israel:
Leviticus 26:44-45 – And despite all this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant with them; for I am the L-rd their G-d. And I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a G-d to them; I am the L-rd.
Judges 2:1 - And an angel of the L-rd came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said [in G-d's name], “I will bring you up from Egypt, and I have brought you to the land which I swore to your forefathers, and I said, ‘I will never break My covenant with you.’”
Ezekiel 16:59-60 – For thus said the L-rd G-d [to Jerusalem]: “I have done with you in accordance to that which you have done, that you have despised an oath in breaking a covenant. Nevertheless I will remember My covenant with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish with you an everlasting covenant.
Psalms 105:8-10 – He has remembered His covenant forever, the word which He commanded to a thousand generations. That which He had made with Abraham, and His oath to Isaac; And He established it for Jacob as a law, and for Israel as an everlasting covenant;
There is no argument about the fact that Israel has strayed from the path many times since the promise was made at Mount Sinai, and for which Israel has suffered the consequences. Yet, the Hebrew Bible clearly shows that G-d will neither break that covenant nor replace the Torah - The Torah is eternal.
Given the evidence presented from the Hebrew Bible, the response to the question asked in the title of this section, “Does This Passage Foretell the (Christian) New Testament?”, is that the claim made by Christian apologists and missionaries cannot be supported with any other Scriptures from within the Hebrew Bible. Quite to the contrary, the Hebrew Bible establishes the eternity of both the covenant and the Torah.
The Jewish prophets foretell that, in the messianic era, the Jewish people will observe the commandments of the Torah:
Isaiah 2:3 - And many people shall go and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the L-rd, to the House of the G-d of Jacob, and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths;” for out of Zion shall Torah emerge, and the word of the L-rd from Jerusalem.
Ezekiel 37:24 - And My servant David shall be king over them, and one shepherd shall shall be for them all; and they shall follow My ordinances, and observe My statutes, and perform them.
Malachi 3:22/[4:4] - Remember the Torah of Moses My servant; that which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel, statutes and ordinances.
It is evident that Jeremiah’s use of the term (brit hadashah), a new covenant, does not involve the replacement of the Torah, which is eternal. Rather, it signals a renewal of the original Sinai covenant, which was declared to be everlasting, through its placement within us along with the (sefer ha’brit), the Book of the Covenant, to make them an inseparable part of the Jewish way of life. The term (brit hadashah), a new covenant, would be meaningless in any context other than one that describes the revitalized original Sinai covenant, along with the Torah, which cannot be replaced, superseded, or rescinded.
The message found in Jeremiah 31:33[34], of a universal knowledge of G-d in the messianic era, is also echoed by other prophets:
Isaiah 11:9 - They shall neither harm nor destroy on My entire Holy Mountain; for the earth shall be full of knowledge of the L-rd, as the waters of the sea cover up [the sea floor].
Zechariah 14:9 - And the L-rd shall be King over all the earth; on that day shall the L-rd be One, and His Name One.
A verse in this passage that is often overlooked or ignored by Christian apologists and missionaries is Jeremiah 31:33[34]. This verse has two interesting attributes. First, in the Hebrew text, the verse starts with the preposition (ve), and, which means that Jeremiah 31:30-36[31-37] is not a two-prophecy passage. Rather, the presence of the preposition, (ve), and, at the beginning of Jeremiah 31:33[34] connects it with the previous verse, Jeremiah 31:32[33], which makes it a continuation of the earlier prophecy and not the start of another, separate prophecy.
<blockquote>Jeremiah 31:33[34] – “And no longer shall they teach, a man his neighbor, and a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the L-rd’, for they shall all know Me, from their smallest to their greatest,” says the L-rd, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will no longer remember.”
This verse speaks of a time when the knowledge of G-d will be universal. “Is there a universal knowledge of G-d in the world today?” If that were the case, then why are Christian missionaries still spread all over the globe, spending many millions of dollars annually, trying to teach everyone to “know the (Christian) lord”? Is this not in complete contradiction to the words of the Prophet in Jeremiah 31:33[34]? The existence of Christian missionaries is a de-facto admission by evangelical Christians that this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled! What does that do to the Christian “New Covenant”?
A correct reading and understanding of the Hebrew text shows unequivocally that Jeremiah 31:30-36 is not a prophecy that was fulfilled during the first century C.E., or at any other time in the past. Rather, it is a prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled, one that will be fulfilled in the messianic era. This passage contains two significant messianic agenda items, i.e., messianic prophecies, which are yet to be fulfilled: the ingathering and restoration of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel, and the existence of a state of the universal knowledge of G-d.
The Jewish perspective correctly demonstrates, the prophecy of Jeremiah’s (brit hadashah), a new covenant, has not yet come to pass; its fulfillment is coupled with Israel being united again in the Promised Land and with a universal knowledge of G-d prevailing.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 10:31 am
Teshuva:
In these days and in our time this Psalm seem to hit the bullseye.
Tehillim - Psalms - Chapter 2
Chapter 2
1. Why have nations gathered and [why do] kingdoms think vain things? ?.
2. Kings of a land stand up, and nobles take counsel together against the Lord and against His anointed? ?.
3. “Let us break their bands and cast off their cords from us.” ?.
4. He Who dwells in Heaven laughs; the Lord mocks them. ?.
5. Then He speaks to them in His wrath; and He frightens them with His sore displeasure. ?.
6. “But I have enthroned My king on Zion, My holy mount.” ?.
7. I will tell of the decree; The Lord said to me, “You are My son; this day have I begotten you. ?.
8. Request of Me, and I will make nations your inheritance, and the ends of the earth your possession. ?.
9. You shall break them with an iron rod; like a potter’s vessel you shall shatter them.” ?.
10. And now, [you] kings, be wise; be admonished, [you] judges of the earth. ?.
11. Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with quaking. ??.
12. Arm yourselves with purity lest He become angry and you perish in the way, for in a moment His wrath will be kindled; the praises of all who take refuge in Him
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 10:50 am
As the Lon Chaney ( man of a thousand persona’s)on the INTERNET, your comment here is understandable. Every time I see your name, the image of Quasimodo flashes before me.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 11:12 am
#75. Replacement Theology is of course a false doctrine. Just as there are Jews who believe many different things, and some Jews argue others are deceived, the same happens in Christianity. The Bible says at 2 Thes 2:3 that in the End Times there would be a great falling away (from the Truth) and man would be deceived and believe fables, lies and doctrines of men instead of the Bible. That has happened. This post attempts to explain how that happened. The Bible also says that at this time God would restore the Jews. That is in process.
Many call the present time the Post-Christian era. One Pastor, Leonard Ravenhill (1907-1994) said a long time ago, “I doubt that more than two percent of professing Christians in the United States are truly born again.”
Constantine, Martin Luther and other false prophets and teachers taught the church that they don’t have to obey God or keep the commandments. That false doctrine is called Antinomianism and “By the 1700’s, Antinomianism had established itself so deeply in most of the colleges that produced pastors, that almost anyone simply professing faith in God was considered a Christian.” Source. That doctrine is the same one hasatan spoke in the Garden to Eve and if one decides to not obey God and keep the commandments, even every word, then that one is ripe to be deceived. This has happened pretty much church wide.
I believe that original Christianity was like Messianic Judaism today, i.e. Judaism with Yeshua as Messiah, and not the Messianic Christianity which is just apostate Christianity.
~Teshuvah, CJ
If you will, Teshuvah is not only a signature but a call to everyone to return to God and Torah.
Comment by Teshuvah — November 12, 2009 @ 1:12 pm
Enjoy: ‘Jesus Was Not the Messiah’ Series - four parts.
Wanna really learn a thing or two? Go to The Jesus Puzzle. Better yet, buy the book. I believe, Yamit, that was one of your recommendations to me earlier this year.
Stop dishing out your crap here, “Teshuva” (an oxymmoron of a name, if there ever was one) - it stinks.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 12, 2009 @ 2:46 pm
Yamit #70- What’s your solution?
Comment by Bill Narvey — November 12, 2009 @ 3:10 pm
I believe, Yamit, that was one of your recommendations to me earlier this year. I did!
Doherty makes a compelling case but in fact I really never believed a real Jesus ever existed, even before I read his works. Now Hajji Baba I do believe existed historically.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0rkWGLvCTA&feature=PlayList&p=B4215C5F5EA85A89&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=42
Was Jesus the: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXnUEW_OXw
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 3:23 pm
More stumbling through Tanach verses by ignorant Christians.
Read The New Covenant.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 12, 2009 @ 3:26 pm
Goodness! I just had hajji baba in a laffah for lunch!
Comment by Shy Guy — November 12, 2009 @ 3:33 pm
I’m beginning to feel sorry for Mrs. Robinson.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 12, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
Narvey I am not sure how to ans. your question: What’s my solution?
What I suggest I know won’t resonate positively, not with you or most Jews so in the end if that is the case I have none. I would therefore consider American or North American Jewry a potential Dodo. They are not yet extinct but well on their way to becoming extinct. I do know that it will end badly for N. American Jewry as, along with the negative demographics, so goes their influence as a community and they are being replaced by those elements and forces most inimical to Jews and Israel. In short I see no future for Jewry outside of Israel as Jews and if history is any teacher not for those ex Jews either.
They can run but not hide behind their non Jewish self identity. Bernard Malamud said ” If a Jew ever forgets who he is a gentile will remind him”
My only long term solution is for the Jew to quit the exile voluntarily when it is easy to do because later the option may not be available to him. Jews never heeded this message in the past and won’t today so as they say You have have today free choice and will have to live with the consequences just like in previous generations but whether the Jew is in physical jeopardy or not he will lose his Jewish identity in another generation two at most. Obama may in the end drive many out but I doubt it even antisemitism probably won’t work any more with these Jews or ex Jews as the case may be. The religious are no better and maybe even worse in this context but that’s another issue. Even Here all of the great Torah Scholars are now in Israel. Today by western standards most Jews would not have to sacrifice much if at all by living in Israel; for most of Western immigrants their life style is pretty close to what most enjoyed in America if not better. Israel today is not what it was economically even ten and fifteen years ago, if that’s what is most important.
There is no cure for saving Jews as Jews any longer in the exile. Even massive Jewish education were it feasible would take to long for it to be effective in stopping the rot.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/WillYourGrandchildrenBeJews/ Will your grandchildren be Jewish?
As the Chinese proverb says, “If we don’t change our direction, we will end up where we’re headed.”
http://audio.simpletoremember.com/misc/Intermarriage…Why%20Not%20%20100.wmv
http://audio.simpletoremember.com/misc/Intermarriage…wmv
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 4:09 pm
Yamit, are you a one trick pony? You have often stated that the only true Jews are those who live in Israel and thus for diaspora Jews to become true Jews they must make aliyah. Now you offer the same suggestion in the context of combatting assimilation.
I should not have to point out to you that in Israel, many Jews are secular atheists and agnostics and some while living a Jewish life, also lead a left wing ideological life at odds with the best interests of Israel.
The problem of assimilation thus is found throughout the Jewish world, save for the Orthodox sector of Judaism.
Assume for a moment that while your solution may be the best solution, it will not resonate with most Jews.
What then is your 2nd best strategy for Jews to combat assimilation. I have as you know written fairly often on the issue and the strategies I would employ to that end.
We are agreed that assimilation has already taken too great a toll on Jews and unless concerted and sustained efforts are made to combat it, assimilation will continue to exact an even greater toll on the world Jewish community.
I am interested in hearing what strategy you can offer to combat assimilation, short of your singular suggestion of inducing Jews to make aliyah.
Comment by Bill Narvey — November 12, 2009 @ 4:23 pm
Bill, my father, ad 120, still says “Hashem helps those who help themselves.” There’s nothing you can do if a person insists on cutting himself off from his people. The only solutions involve Torah based Jewish education, with a major stress on the individual’s importance to himself/herself, as well as to our nation as a whole, and the recognition that Hashem is offering His people an open door opportunity to return to the only patch of land on earth where our final development can take root.
“So God led the people around [by] way of the desert [to] the Red Sea, and the children of Israel were armed (”chamushim”) when they went up out of Egypt.”
- Exodus 13:16
End of Rashi commentary for the word “armed”:
“Another interpretation: “Chamushim” means “divided by five,” [meaning] that one out of five [Israelites] went out, and four fifths [lit., parts of the people] died during the three days of darkness [see Rashi on Exod. 10:22].” — [from Mechilta, Tanchuma, Beshallach 1]
Exodus 10:22 refers to the 9th plague, darkness:
“So Moses stretched forth his hand toward the heavens, and there was thick darkness over the entire land of Egypt for three days.”
Excerpt from Rashi on the verse:
“and there was thick darkness… for three days, etc.: …. Now why did He bring darkness upon them [the Egyptians]? Because there were among the Israelites in that generation wicked people who did not want to leave [Egypt]. They died during the three days of darkness, so that the Egyptians would not see their downfall and say, “They too are being smitten like us.”
The events of our forefathers are a sign for their descendants.
Comment by Shy Guy — November 12, 2009 @ 5:32 pm
Shy Guy, with due respect to your religous view, the fact is that your proposal will not touch any responsive chord with the majority, if not large majority of disengaging or already disengaged Jews.
I do not know if you have read my past strategies and explanations.
Essentially my approach to combatting assimilation is to force the issue of the manifesting existential threat of assimilation to the forefront of all Jewish minds. Secondly it is to instill a stronger sense of Jewish identity and appreciation for Jewish heritage, regardless of one’s level of observance. Thirdly, it is to instill in all Jews a sense of both a community and personal duty to resist and fight against assimilation.
I contend this must start with our Rabbis who must put concern for the survival of the Jewish people ahead of concern for sparing the feelings of Jews already touched by assimilation or who would be turned off by Rabbis speaking out directly against it.
Individual Rabbis have reason to be concerned that by speaking out they put their own job security at risk. That risk is much lessened, if not eliminated if all Rabbis dared to speak out in unison.
While my strategies call for a sudden dropping of political correctness and putting Jewish survival as the top priority by Rabbis, with the support and encouragement of Jewish leaders, these strategies are more of an incremental approach vis a vis reaching and convincing all Jews and especially the disengaging and disengaged Jews.
It seems to me that if these strategies could move Jews closer to their Judaism and Jewish heritage, the chances are that some or even many will find the momentum within themselves to draw closer still on their own.
Comment by Bill Narvey — November 12, 2009 @ 6:55 pm
Naevey a a long time sufferer of severe headaches, you become desperate and go to the nearest brain doctor Yamit82. After many tests Yamit comes up with a diagnosis being that you are in immediate need of brain surgery to relieve the Cerebral Aneurysm that is life threatening. Problem is that you might have a 1 in 5 chance of surviving the operation and even if you do there could be brain damage of undetermined consequences: so you weigh the options certain death or a good chance that you might have a difficult problems if you do survive the operation. You are not given a third option. You go and get a second or a third opinion and the reults are pretty much the same.
What do you do?
You want simplistic and painless ans. to a problem that might be considered clinically hopeless as the cure can now only be gotten through a lot of personal anguish and even a lot of pain.
Historically assimilation and antisemitism have cleansed the Jewish people of weak Jews and left only the strong committed Jews to carry the Jewish people through the trials and tribulations our people encountered all through our long history. That’s why we have 12=14 million Jews today and not 500 million. Most Jews opted out in some form and that accounts for our small numbers.
There is no comparison as a matter of fact I hold that the most secular ( non observant) Halachic Jew in Israel is more Jewish than the greatest Torah scholar in America. Whatever his political and religious beliefs he has committed to the primary Mitzvah in the Torah. The living and settlement of the Land of Israel. He will speak Hebrew, will have an acquaintance with Tanach as it is a required subject in our school system. He will identify with the Jewish People, Will probably not intermarry, will raise his Children as Israeli Jews and be proud of the distinction. He will circumsize his sons and bar mitzvah them at thirteen. He will marry in an orthodox ceremony, be buried according to dat Moshe. He will have a Mezzuzah on every door of his home or work place. He is likley to attend Yom Kippur services and visit family graves on their Yahrtzeit and say Kaddish for a parent or child. He will celebrate most of the Jewish holidays in some way and attend a seder for passover. He will celebrate Israel independence day, Our memorial day for our fallen, and rspect Holocaust remembrance day. He will have served or is now serving in our defense forces and it is not uncommon that grandfather, son and grandson serve at the same time.
What ever our differences of ashkefah we have more in common with ea other religious and non religious than we have with any of you in the exile. Living together under the same existential threats and self sacrifice by secular and religious alike in common cause overcomes many of our internal or tribal differences. We know we can count on our next door neighbors more than any Jew still clinging to the exile. Those Jews who sat out the last hundred years in general safety and comfort while we carried the load in both sweat and blood.
No Narvey our secular and even secular left here are not the same as what you have there. Here we are building a Jewish society, which is far from complete and far from perfect but our general direction is still positive as opposed to all of the negatives in your society.
When I say that coming here is your (Jewish) viable option it is because here what ails you can be fixed and even if not you can lead a partially religious and Jewish nationalistic life. Then we hope the next generation will adopt those Jewish values we hold vital in our rebuilding a Jewish commonwealth society. First is to get the Jews to come and then the process has a chance of working out the problems, even if it takes a few more generations. Here we have the tools and a small insular society, there you have the opposite with small or no chance for success.
In North America you are losing 400,000 Jews every ten years and it is accelerating rapidly so it might be 500 or 600,000 by the next census. 2010. Do the Math yourself.
Maybe good old fashioned antisemitism will save you? As a Jew and a Zionist I find it quite Oxymoronic to want to help any Jew stay in the exile. So here I admit I am conflicted.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 8:24 pm
If you had real Jewish rabbis maybe it could help but most of those you refer to as rabbis? Substitute the word kawyer or doctor for rabbi and that will give you an idea that what you are suggesting is fantasy.
A real Rabbi would set an example to his congregates and move to Israel. Hoping that many would follow. A Rabbi fearful of offending his congregation by rebuking them is not worth the title of rabbi.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2009 @ 8:44 pm
Yamit, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Your one and only solution to assimilation simply does not register with very many people and it does not register with me as the one and only solution to the problem and threat of assimilation.
Comment by Bill Narvey — November 12, 2009 @ 11:50 pm
Yamit: Laura and their fellow travellers.
In view of all the unspeakable obscenities, curses and filthy language heaped upon us all by the above unmentionables, it is time that we undergo a cleansing process from the INSIDE OUT.
Comment by h peskin — November 13, 2009 @ 12:46 am
Disagree with what? You have no solution, you can’t even define the causation of the problem we do agree on. Cause and effect. You won’t admit to the causes because the solutions are embedded within those causes.
So you disagree, I never expected otherwise from you. While you are searching for solutions other than mine you will lose another half million or a million more Jews, that is if you come up with an alternative to mine? Greater minds than mine or yours have been searching eons for just such a remedy and still have yet to come up with any. But go ahead it’s your choice, let me know when you hit on another solution that works.
Numbers are important but zealousness always trumps numbers or the lack of large numbers.
Comment by yamit82 — November 13, 2009 @ 1:37 am