McCain will refrain from actively engaging in the peace process
By Ted Belman
Last week I wrote to John McCain’s press office and recommended that he take a position of not pushing Israel to capitulate in the peace process. I wrote that it would contrast with Obama’s position supported by J-Street and his foreign policy advisors that Israel should be pressured to make further concessions.
So you can imagine my satisfaction of seeing this in INN
McCain ‘Would Not Promote Israel-PA Talks’
by Gil Ronen
(IsraelNN.com) A U.S. administration under John McCain would discourage Israeli-Syrian peace talks and refrain from actively engaging in the Israeli-Palestinian diplomatic process. That was the message delivered over the weekend by two McCain advisers – Max Boot, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and Richard Williamson, the Bush administration’s special envoy to Sudan – during a retreat hosted by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy at the Lansdowne Resort in rural Virginia.
Richard Danzig, a representative of Barack Obama, said the Democratic presidential candidate would take the opposite approach on both issues.
I believe this is an important policy difference, one which will drive more Jews to vote for McCain.
I wish it would, but I don’t think it will. Jewish voters seem quite immune for this kind of thing.
Besides, didn’t George W promise something similar, way back when? And see where we are now.
Comment by Kim Hartveld — September 24, 2008 @ 7:04 am
McCain is a CFR puppet and would never refuse to meddle in the Middle East, no matter what his disinformation agents would mislead folks to believe.
The only presidential candidate who truly would have a hands-off approach to the Israeli-Arab conflict would be Chuck Baldwin. That’s the plain truth!
Comment by David BenAriel — September 24, 2008 @ 7:43 am
Such a position would probably drive more Christian Zionists that might otherwise vote write-in or third party to vote for McCain, except that Palin already is bringing most of us in.
Comment by soren — September 24, 2008 @ 7:55 am
I have to go with Kim on this and maybe even turn some away!!! American Jews seem to be in a lock about peace process and 2 state solution, at least those few who give a dam.
Comment by yamit82 — September 24, 2008 @ 8:08 am
The talking point for Obama phone calls to voters who mention Israel SEEMS to be ‘Bush sat on his hands when Israel attacked Lebanon last year’ based on what I remember from the phone call from Obama for America on Monday night. I lost my temper when she then said McCain was pre-Alzheimer’s and Sarah Palin was going to murder McCain in order to take over if they were elected…this is a new kind of politics???
Comment by Birdalone — September 24, 2008 @ 9:07 am
That would certainly be very promising and I hope that McCain would follow it, but realistically speaking, yes Bush promised the same thing, so McCain might even stick to it for a while but the old policies will continue to be pushed by State which means they’ll come to the surface again sooner or later
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 24, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
There are only two candidates with a chance of winning this election. You either vote for McCain or you will get Obama. You are throwing away your vote with a third party candidate.
Comment by Laura — September 24, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
Someone needs to remind these folks that they have inverted cause and effect. Israel first was attacked by hezbollah from Lebanese territory.
Comment by Laura — September 24, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
As Bill Levinson has done, we should turn this back around on them and claim Obama’s admitted history of cocaine use has caused damage to his brain which renders him unfit for the presidency.
Comment by Laura — September 24, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
Laura: You are woefully behind the times. Because of the severe economic crises, Obama is surging ahead in the polls, and the prospects for McCain are not good. Sarah Palin has had a one night stand with the the U.S.public, a fling, a roll in the hay and nothing more. Your allegations of Obama’s drug induced brain damage sound very much like the ignorant rant of a fishwife.
Comment by larry gordon — September 24, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
Laura: Would you by any chance be single? I like your style. Do you think you can get interested in S and M?
Comment by philo-clitoreum — September 24, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
Philo-cl, May I call you phil? I think you might have the wrong address.You must be looking for YouPorn.com, this is Israpundit. Why don’t you check with Google. I am sure thay will help.
Comment by h peskin — September 24, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Obama has surged ahead in strictly one poll. Other polls still show him neck and neck.
McCain is actually tackling the current economic crisis, while all Obama can do is deliver speeches surrounded by styrofoam columns.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 24, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
Who says it’s even a past history? Obama’s uneven appearances can easily be explained by substance abuse. And there’s Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Presidency who comes to appearances completely soused and makes racial jokes.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 24, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
knish: McCain is toast. Live with it. The world will adjust. It survived Bush, didn’t it?
Comment by h peskin — September 24, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
McCain is doing fine despite the liberal smear campaigns.
The LA Times\Bloomberg poll finds the same thing
Carter’s legacy was Al Queda and Iran. Obama’s legacy would be far worse.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 24, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
Look what using dope did to Clinton. Look what booze did to Bush.
Comment by yamit82 — September 25, 2008 @ 1:39 am
Do you now claim to have intimate knowledge of Fish wives? How about Butchers wives? are you prejudiced against meat in favor of fish? You should really get to know plumbers wives then you could gain intimate knowledge of toilets and sewers.
Comment by yamit82 — September 25, 2008 @ 1:44 am
A man who can barely function without a teleprompter should certainly be raising some serious questions about his fitness to serve. There won’t be any teleprompters to read from when Obama is sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 25, 2008 @ 1:46 am
Obama is a prime example of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION run amok!!!!!!
Beware there are a lot more out there.
OYLEM GOYLEM
Comment by yamit82 — September 25, 2008 @ 3:10 am
knish: Get this into your skull once and for all. The days of leftist bashing are over. The neo coms and Bush have damaged America and the Western cause almost as much as Al-Qaeda has. So you guys can slink back into your hole, as will the other Bushites, come next January. And we will all say, finally the day of our salvation has arrived. We will rejoice in finally seeing the backs of you.
Comment by h peskin — September 25, 2008 @ 3:14 am
Yamit:
Look who is talking. The man who is the main contributor for the increase in dividends and profits of the Jack Daniels Company, for these many years.
Yambo, are we going to see you at A.A. these week?
Comment by h peskin — September 25, 2008 @ 3:24 am
all of this from a declared Canadian? How come except for some sick Jews other, Canadians don’t seem to have the same intense concerns over American politics?
Comment by yamit82 — September 25, 2008 @ 3:25 am
Even Peskin is not wrong 100% of the time. On rare occasions he sometimes gets it right . This is one of those rare times. Kudos.
Comment by yamit82 — September 25, 2008 @ 3:28 am
peskin,
the difference between you and yamit is that he lives in israel and you are crawling before the goyim.
Comment by Tar Yag — September 25, 2008 @ 4:44 am
The days of bashing leftists only come when leftists are in power. So I hope you are correct that the leftists will become powerless once more and there will be no need to bash them.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 25, 2008 @ 9:47 am
knish: Your name is highly appropriate to your views: I am awestruck at your phenomenal chutzpah in trumpeting a right wing agenda, when this whole disgusting philosophy, from economics to social matters and foreign affairs has been completely and thoroughly discredited.
Knish, you should be hiding under your bed not propogating what most reasonable people in the world today find offensive and obscene.
Perhaps someone like Philo-Clitoreum (where did he come from?) might appreciate you.No one else does.
Comment by h peskin — September 25, 2008 @ 10:34 am
I don’t trumpet a right wing agenda, I trumpet an anti-left wing agenda. Since you view the world from a polarized left wing perspective, it is natural that you can’t tell the difference.
Comment by Sultan Knish — September 25, 2008 @ 10:56 am
knish: CNN September 25, 2008
In what could be a disasterous sign for John McCain, more voters than ever before this election cycle feel the economy is the most important issue to ther vote — a subject on which Barack Obama has consistently held an advantage.
According to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, nearly 6 in 10 registered voters now say the economy is more important than any other issue — a number that is almost a double digit jump from a similar poll taken in July. And it’s nearly double the 35 percent of voters who thought the economy was the No. 1 issue in January.
Meanwhile, the issue John McCain is strongest on — Iraq — has steadily declined in importance among voters. In the latest poll only 10 percent of registered voters say it is most important, down from 25 percent who felt it was most important in July.
The poll was conducted September 19-21, entirely after the crisis on Wall Street unfolded. It surveyed 909 registered voters and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.
Filed under: Barack Obama • John McCain
You may begin to recite Kaddish for McCain. He is quite safely dead
Comment by h peskin — September 25, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
If you vote for Obama or McCain - two sides of the same CFR coin - you’re wasting your vote. Why not make it count and do so with a clear conscience and vote for Chuck Baldwin? Don’t listen to the defeatists who blather he couldn’t be elected. “We The People” know better and, by the grace of God, have proven the “impossible” possible - time and again.
Comment by David BenAriel — October 3, 2008 @ 9:47 pm
Of all the critical issues that were brought up during the September 26th Presidential Debate on the Ole Miss campus in Oxford, Mississippi, of which my husband and I were present, Israeli flags in hand, neither candidate addressed our nation’s foreign policy concerning the Jewish State. If we fail to develop a wise and honest policy in our dealings with Israel, all of the critical issues that are facing our nation and all of our efforts in the war against Islamic activism/terror will become a moot point.
Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas has failed to live up to his commitments, much in keeping with the leadership that preceded him. Nevertheless, President George W. Bush continues to push Israel into relinquishing more of her tangible assets – large tracts of the Jewish Homeland that include strategic high-tops and a prized aquifer – in exchange for more fleeting promises of peace and security from her “palestinian” peace partners, who are, in reality, Sunni Muslims from the surrounding nation-states fighting an Islamic war by proxy on Israel’s soil.
Should these radicalized “palestinians” successfully take over 95% of Judea and Samaria, the so-called “West Bank,” the democratic check will be removed from the area and the hand of the guerilla groups they have been sheltering will be further strengthened. The judenrein Judea and Samaria will be afflicted by a convergence of Islamic terrorist groups from both the west and east banks, which will provide a foothold for enemy states, such as Iran and Syria, that are sponsoring the terrorist operations inside Israel.
In the short-run, this convergence will weaken the shrinking Jewish State, if not threaten her very existence, and it will frustrate the ability of the United States to militarily operate in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the long run, the convergence, along with the prized giveaway of symbolic Jerusalem and its Holy Sites to Muslim rule, will act as a catalyst to bring about the realization of an international Shariah superstate.
The Imams teach that Muslims are blessed by Allah, their pre-Arabian moon deity, with a 30-year supply of oil in order to fuel their global Islamic revolution. Control over Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem will bring them closer to their goal of world dominance because it will be the precursor for providing Islamic continuity in the Fertile Crescent region, which will tie the Asian and African continents together to form a vast Islamic sea free of any genuine democratic checks. Such a development will serve as a springboard from which to wage a supreme multifaceted jihad. Make no mistake: control over Jerusalem will signify to Muslims the world over that the time for insurrections within their host countries is nearing.”
Prior to the 9/11 outrage — during the Clinton Administration — I mailed our 106th Congress an emphatic warning in the form of an informational packet. The packet included my analysis piece on Islam, entitled: “Islamic Terrorism: A Clear and Present Danger of Global Proportions,” which I wrote in July of 1996, and supportive material on Middle Eastern dynamics, terrorism bar graphs, a map depicting the global spread of the Islamic revolutionary movement, and long list of “palestinian” Liberation Organization security violations and breaches of the Interim Agreement – the so-called Oslo II. This important and telling information went largely ignored.
I warned then that we were facing an impending Islamic attack upon our homeland, and today I warn that Islamic insurrection on our soil is only a matter of time.
The wherewithal required to hunt down Islamic activist/terrorist cells and to keep the Middle Eastern pot from boiling over requires a steadfast investment of U.S. funding and forces, which cannot abate even in the face of the current domestic crisis. Americans must come to terms with the Middle Eastern mindset, the antithesis of Western ideals, which means that we must balance our tolerance with a healthy dose of discernment. Islam historically resists assimilation into other cultures and dominates its host countries where there is no resistance to it taking root. If we are to maintain our ideals, mores, social order and standard of living, Americans must be willing to address the subtle, cynical and determined campaign of Islamic creep – Islamization — that is manifesting itself within our study halls, workplaces, government, houses of worship and prison systems. Islamization is here to rewrite history, dominate our free-market enterprises, push the envelope on our laws, exploit our good will, and mislead our disgruntled citizens by putting their American faces on Islam. Islamization is here to confuse the enemy – us — for we are to Islam the “great Satan.”
Islam’s revolutionary agenda will strengthen as long as we continue to tolerate blind guides who whitewash Islamic activist/terrorist thugs and give them states, sanitize an intolerant religion that from its very Qur’anic core calls for human sacrifice and jihad at every level, and maintain the status quo of our reliance upon foreign oil.
Our next leader must call the problem out for what it is – a genuine clash of civilizations: Islam at war with the world — and deal with it resolutely in a position of strength, shoulder to shoulder with our genuine allies.
Our strong ally Israel, the so-called “little Satan,” is at the forefront of this clash of civilizations as she grapples with Islamic insurrection upon her soil. Her leaders have grown weary of fighting wars of attrition sponsored and executed by the numerous Arab-Muslim states that surround her. The negative press and international pressure has her caving into repeated reckless land “concessions” in an effort to garner those ever-evasive promises of peace. Such compromises have historically brought about brief periods of relative calm on the domestic and international scenes, which enabled Islam to strengthen itself so that its activists could follow up with more Islamization and terror on Israel’s soil and within other hosting countries abroad.
America’s next president must firmly stand by the Jewish State and deal forthrightly with her even when it is becoming increasingly unpopular to do so. He must offer her honest and sound counsel rather than send her staggering along what continues to be an increasingly bloody “peace” path. In the eyes of the Ummah – the collective Muslim body – peace will not be realized until Israel “drinks from the Gaza sea,” as “palestinian” leadership and other Muslim leaders repeatedly boast. This pronouncement is not merely saber rattling. It is fully in keeping with a multitude of Surahs from the Qur’an that claim the Jewish People are accursed miscreants, apes and swine, worthy of humiliation, being the very inmates of hell, and of Ahadith, the Oral Tradition that describes an “Islamic divine order” when the “hour” will come for the Muslims to annihilate the Jews. During this war, the Jews will try to escape from the clutches of their Muslim pursuers by hiding behind rocks and trees. On that day, Allah will give mouths to the rocks and trees, which will call out, “O, Muslim, there is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.”
If we are to deal with this deeply rooted, misguided belief system effectively, a fresh policy approach toward Israel is necessary. Such a policy must, without compromise, replace the conventional “wisdom” of a two-state “solution” for the Jewish State.
According to a September 23, 2008 report filed by Gil Ronen of IsraelNationalNews.com, two McCain advisers delivered a message to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy in Virginia and stated that a U.S. administration under John McCain will refrain from actively engaging in the Israeli-“palestinian” diplomatic process and will discourage Israeli-Syrian talks, as well.
This position is not espoused on the McCain website; neither has it been reported on the Washington Institute for Near East Policy’s website. I am currently contacting the McCain campaign for comment.
The official party line as of June 2, 2008 has been that a McCain administration would encourage the Israeli-“palestinian” “peace” process. The McCain website even makes reference to Abbas as the “palestinian” president — an erroneous designation that hints of de facto “palestinian” statehood. If, indeed, McCain is moving to the right of this issue, than merely refraining from advocating a two-state solution is not enough if the United States and Israel are to avoid further eye-winking, round-table “negotiations” and “concessions” where Israel ends up – as has categorically been the case – at the short end of the stick. This seasoned leader must unequivocally state that he is firmly against giving away even one more inch of Israel’s land for any reason, he must be willing to provide honest, sound counsel to the tired Israeli leaders, and back his policy with unwavering no-strings-attached military and financial support. Such a bold, unambiguous policy would bolster Israel’s strength so that she could stand up to international pressures and deal with this escalating matter in a position of strength. Our nationhood depends on Israel’s success.
If Senator McCain rises to the occasion, it will draw a clear line on an international scale between good and evil, truth and falsehood, civilized and uncivilized, the G-d of Reality and the god of death and destruction, and it will call every leader of our global village to get off the fence and choose which side they are on. It will bring to a close the days of sweeping the dirty little secret of Islam’s global revolutionary agenda under the carpet. It will force us to admit that we are already engaged in World War III — something that those who have made themselves enemies of humanity understand all too clearly. When Americans consider the burgeoning problem of Islamic activism/terrorism that is gaining momentum and earning the support and admiration of rogue regimes and various miscreant groups that are racing to arm themselves with nuclear weapons, and how this violent movement has been largely met with Muslim silence, then the only clear solution is to abandon the appeasement policies and denials of reality, and deal with this dilemma in a position of unwavering strength and raw honesty.
A storm of grand proportions is, indeed, approaching. Let us move beyond interpreting the mere appearances of the sky, and, instead, endeavor to interpret the signs of the times, lest it be Divinely Decreed of our One Nation Under G-d: “You have been Weighed on the Scales and Found wanting.”
As a postscript to the above: I have just finished watching the October 2, 2008 debate between Senator Joe Biden and Governor Sarah Palin. I am deeply disappointed in Palin’s statement that a two-state solution for Israel would be a “top priority” under a McCain-Palin administration. Although I fully expected the mantra of a two-state solution for the Jewish State to be trumpeted on an Obama-Biden ticket, I held out slim hope that the McCain-Palin team would be truly maverick by abandoning this failed policy position.
I am pained to say, to date, there is no least objectionable candidate.
Woe to this country: Its leaders persist, in spite of many warnings, in dividing the Promised Land. The Bible states through the Prophets Joel/Yo’el (3:1-2) and Obadiah/’Ovadya (15-16) that such blind guides have set their faces against G-d’s Purpose, and according to this Standard, America will be Judged.
Comment by Sandra Warmoth — October 3, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
Correct but that is not the only difference.
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One could argue with conservative ideology VS liberal leftist ideology.Tthere is a synergy between leftist liberalism, American assimilated Jews and secular Israelis(Including most Zionists here in Israel). The American Jewish democrats’ behavior is recognizable: they side with anti-Jewish forces to prove that they are not some narrow-minded Jews who refuse to vote for a Hussein.
Both left-wing Zionists and Jewish liberals exonerate their inaction by blaming the victim. Zionists blamed the European Jews who didn’t rise up to die with dignity. Many of the Obama Jewish supporters blame Israel for over-extending her hand in the US lobbying and blame religious Jews for American conservative policies which found backlash in Obama.
Israeli Zionists despised the allegedly degraded European Jews, and American Jewish liberals are contempt of Israelis: they failed to obtain American visas, live among Arabs in poverty, fight instead of conducting academic discussions, and fit the American Jews’ cognitive profile of boorish losers.
Both left-wing Zionists and the liberals try to escape their Jewishness. To that end, they attempt placing Jewishness hopelessly behind themselves. A notorious feature of Zionist discourse on Holocaust was its past tense: during the war, Zionist leaders and newspapers described the catastrophe as something which already had happened rather than the ongoing process which can be at least mitigated through ransom. They decided to establish Yad Vashem Holocaust museum not after the war, but while the catastrophe was at its peak. Likewise, Obama’s election puts an end to the hopes of stopping Iran. In a sense, nuclear Iran puts away the Jewish liberals’ problem of Israeli identity: with such an adversary, Israel cannot afford an identity, but has to become submissive.
The US president who humbled Israel most, beat her pride into dust, was an idealist Jimmy Carter; ostensibly weak and simple-minded, he pushed Israel to accept his own ideals and abandon Sinai to the enemy who lost five wars against us. Obama is a similar personality. After his recent book on Israel, Carter is universally considered an anti-Semite; Obama’s reputation is not as straight yet, though his friends are deeply anti-Semitic.
There is a hope for Obama: his treacherousness. He’s a carbon copy of the American Jews: a perplexed, rootless Muslim, willing to align with any strong leader down to an anti-Semitic pastor, but also willing to renounce them for a stronger one – and so he speaks before the AIPAC conference. A Muslim by birth, he would lead infidel army against his co-religionists in Afghanistan and Iraq. Like the Jews, he might reject his religious heritage and support strong Israel more than any other president. Like Jewish politicians of the Diaspora make some of the worst anti-Semites, Obama might well side with Jews against Muslims. Such an outcome cannot be predicted, but is possible.
Obama is a Muslim apostate just like the liberals are Jewish apostates. Muslims worldwide like Obama just like Jews liked the apostate Kissinger who did not give a damn about Israel.
Obama’s popularity is of Michael Jackson’s kind: he is an ethnic star. Fans scream just for seeing him, and no wise words are expected in return. With Americans wise words would probably mean not being electable.
Comment by yamit82 — October 4, 2008 @ 2:05 am
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”
Matthew 7:15-20
Comment by h peskin — October 4, 2008 @ 4:44 am
Peskin.
Stop talking gibberish and who the hell is this Mathew guy; a friend of Yours and Soros?
Mathew 25:35-46
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Comment by yamit82 — October 4, 2008 @ 6:29 am
Sandra
Intelligent comment. I hope we hear more from you.
Comment by Ted Belman — October 4, 2008 @ 7:53 am
Sandra Warmoth:
Just what appeasement policies are you referring to?.America is at war in three theatres and expending a huge amount of capital at a time when it is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.These wars are not succeeding by any objective measure.Thousands of American deaths and serious injuries to obtain miniscule results hardly represents appeasement. What exactly would satisfy you, all out war? A war waged against some billion plus Muslims. I would not call this a reasoned argument-it seems more like madness.
This presidential race is to select the leader of America. Then it would make perfectly good sense that the issues discussed would primarely be about what concern Americans,
not Israelis. If you think that the U.S. future administration would throw in its lot exclusively with Israel, ignoring its other strategic interests, I would contend that you are sadly out of touch with reality.
There was a time when your comments would have resonated with many on Israpundit. Those days are long over
Comment by h peskin — October 4, 2008 @ 6:23 pm
Peskin;
If there is one country in the world more cowardly and more appeaser of evil than most of western Europe it is Canada. Note: Hell, America has been doing the paying and fighting for Canada almost for ever with a brief out of Character participation in WWll. If Canada had to defend herself and pay her fair share for North American and Global defense of her values and interests I dare say your standard of living might be halved. If there is a country more dependent and subservient to America than Israel it is Canada.
I suppose I will now hear from all of the Canadians. Say it isn’t so Hymie.
Comment by yamit82 — October 4, 2008 @ 7:26 pm
Peskin I forgot; Canada does have one thing in common with America, and that is almost half of the population don’t speak English.
Comment by yamit82 — October 4, 2008 @ 7:34 pm
Peskin
Shit and here I was under the misguided impression that it was Islam that has attacked America, her interests and allies. Unless you believe as some do that it wasn’t Islam that attacked America but those nasty Martians? Or as some believe that it’s a a Jewish conspiracy? You will never let the facts interfere with you madness. ( Commie , liberal leftist Universal relativism). That said I don’t approve as to how America has prosecuted the war or the keystone cops image America has won for herself in and out of America but the cause was and still is a just one.
Comment by yamit82 — October 4, 2008 @ 7:47 pm