She’s b-a-a-a-c-k!! Jamie Gorelick as possible Obama AG
Another Brick In ‘The Wall’?
Jamie Gorelick at 9/11 Commission hearings
Transition: Jamie Gorelick may be back, this time as attorney general. It was her “wall of separation” that that left us blind pre-9/11. And let’s not forget her admirable service at Fannie Mae.
Not many people can claim to have been at the center of arguably the greatest financial disaster and greatest national security disaster in American history. But Gorelick, said to be on the short list for attorney general by the New York Times, can. Surely that qualifies her for further government service.
Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million serving as vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003. In 1998, according to the Washington Post , Gorelick received a bonus of $779,625, despite a scandal in which employees falsified signatures on accounting transactions to manipulate books to meet 1998 earning targets.
In 2003, she got a “Friends of Angelo” sweetheart mortgage deal from Countrywide Financial for almost $1 million. Her $960,000 mortgage refinancing in 2003 was handled through a program reserved for influential figures and friends of Countrywide’s chief executive at the time, Angelo Mozilo.
Countrywide’s loans on preferential terms to influential figures are the subject of a federal grand jury investigation in Los Angeles, according to people involved in the inquiry. So Gorelick is in fact under investigation by the department she might soon be running.
On March 25, 2002, BusinessWeek quoted Gorelick as saying: “We believe we are managed safely. Fannie Mae is among the handful of top-quality institutions.” One year later, government regulators accused Fannie Mae of improper accounting to the tune of $9 billion in unrecorded losses. This keen financial oversight set the stage for the financial meltdown to follow.
Before Fannie Mae, Gorelick was deputy attorney general in the Clinton Justice Department and architect of the policy that established a wall between intelligence and law enforcement, making “connecting the dots” before 9/11 a virtual impossibility.
Gorelick was the author of a 1995 memo that helped establish what former Attorney General John Ashcroft testified was the “single greatest structural cause” for Sept. 11, which was “the wall that segregated criminal investigators and intelligence agents.”
“Government erected this wall,” Ashcroft said. “Government buttressed this wall. And before Sept. 11, government was blinded by this wall.”
Gorelick later was a member of the 9/11 Commission, a participant in the very events being investigated. At the commission hearings, she pummeled Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, not with questions but with accusations of malfeasance, asking Rice why her office failed to “connect the dots.”
Gorelick made the accusations knowing that she herself issued the memo ordering the FBI to erect a legal wall between itself and the CIA, preventing them from sharing information, making it impossible to collect the dots, much less connect them. She should have been a witness, not a panel member.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, who in 1998 brought an indictment against bin Laden and a deputy, Mohammed Atef, for the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, wrote two scathing memos to Attorney General Janet Reno on the wall Gorelick built with Reno’s approval.
On June 13, 1995, White wrote Reno: “The most effective way to combat terrorism is with as few labels and walls as possible so that whenever permissible, the right and left hands are communicating.”
According to a New York Post report, White was so upset after Reno and Gorelick refused to tear down Gorelick’s wall barring information-sharing between intelligence and law enforcement that she wrote a second, still-secret memo, saying their wall hindered law enforcement and could cost lives.
In this time of financial crisis and war on terror, it would be more than a little ironic if an old Clinton crony, someone who played a detrimental role in both, would be rewarded again with a key role in government. Maybe it’s true that the more things “change” the more they remain the same.
this guy barry uh-oh is so evil…the people who are behind him, the moslem brotherhood, so evil:
they know the stuff could well fall apart. so to screen themselves they put kapo jews in ‘charge’. and when things fall apart they don’t have to do anything: the people will blame “those jews in power” the people will say that ‘those jews’ messed it up for barry oh-no.
this is part of the history of antisemitism.
germany,spain,greece,egypt… jews who assimilated and reached power points in the gov’t.
and then: wham, the jews get slammed with blame for whatever is going wrong, esp with money.
how many places is it said in tanach about smooth talking leaders who end up killing people.
barry oh-no won’t “do” it. he’s too slick for that. it will go down more like ‘taking care of the zionist problem’ or something even more seemingly innocuous….
Comment by bugsy — November 11, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
I was hoping for John Bolton
Comment by ventanax5 — November 11, 2008 @ 11:19 pm
Bugsy has a valid historical truth. Kapo Jews have always been used by antisemites in positions of power to use Jews to administer unpopular programs and the sow the seeds of blame on the Jews when all policies or programs fail and go south. Obama is setting the Jews up to be his scapegoat when he fails and he is bound to fail.
JEWS BEWARE AND WATCH YOUR BACKS! The next few years may be a watershed for American Jewry.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 3:48 am
As a non-Jew, I have to ask:
Why did so many American Jews vote for Obama, especially after hearing that his policies were not friendly to Israel? Do they simply not care? Or have they turned against Israel, hoping it will die soon and they won’t have to think about it anymore. Is that their attitude? Do they think things will get better here in the States if Israel no longer exists? Are they all brainwashed into loving Marxism? Why? Because their grandfather was a Marxist? Do they think creating a socialist-leaning/Marxist US govt will suddenly make everyone “equal” and eliminate anti-semitism? How did that work out for Jews in the old Soviet Union?
And what about Chief-or-Staff-to-be Rahm Immanuel? What’s up with him? Don’t you trust him? Why not?
Yes and Gorelick and several of the rest of Obama’s appointees… all Jewish .. but you don’t trust them? Why not?
Comment by NJ — November 12, 2008 @ 7:46 am
The Second American Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk&NR=1
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 8:44 am
NJ
Yes to all your questions. You understand completely.
Comment by Ted Belman — November 12, 2008 @ 9:48 am
Why Jews Are Voting Obama
Shmuel Rosner - 10.22.2008 - 11:25 AM
According to a recent study sept.2008 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rosner/39612
The Jewish tilt toward the Democratic candidate may be seen through two comparisons. First, Jews split 67-33 in favor of Obama, producing a gap of 17 percentage points with the nation. Second, and even more telling, is the contrast with non-Jewish whites. While only 37% of white respondents declared a preference for Obama, 67% of Jews did so — a gap of 30 percentage points. In short, with undecided voters eliminated from consideration, non-Jewish whites tilted heavily toward McCain, while Jews tilted even more heavily toward Obama.
However, this study is not just about support but also about the reasons for this support. One conclusion: Israel, to say the least, is hardly a dominant issue:
Commentators have suggested that Jews’ concern for Israel may well serve to diminish their enthusiasm for the Democratic candidate. Indeed, Jews do care about the Israel-Palestine conflict more than other Americans. Yet, with that said, the Israel issue ranked 8th out of 15 issues in importance as a presidential election consideration for Jewish respondents. Aside from the economy (a prime issue of concern for the vast majority of respondents), ahead of Israel on Jewish voters’ minds were such matters as health care, gas prices and energy, taxes, and education. Ranking just below Israel in importance for Jewish respondents were appointments to the Supreme Court and the environment. In fact, when asked to name their top three issues, just 15% of Jewish respondents chose Israel as one of the three, and these were heavily Orthodox Jews.
o what is it that makes Jews vote Democratic, and what will make them vote for Obama?
While their political views tending in the liberal direction help explain their support for Obama, and their concern for Israel may actually pull them in the other direction, political views alone cannot explain their high levels of Democratic vote intention. Neither can the major socio-demographic variables. Rather, their vote intentions are a product of their political identities - their long-standing association with the liberal camp and the Democratic Party.
The professors responsible for this study should be commended for concluding on this bold and revealing point:
Ironically, Jews and other highly educated voters often view other Americans as responding to instinctual, historic habits, to their political heritage, if you will. People like to think of themselves as totally rational and driven by carefully considered values.
In fact, Jews in the upcoming election also respond to their identities. In their case, they will be reflecting their long-held, multi-generation attachment to the liberal camp in America, and to the Democratic Party.
Of course, this doesn’t mean that they vote for the candidate with the wrong views. It just suggests that they didn’t seriously ponder the implications of their vote — and didn’t even try to entertaine the other option.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Yes, Bugsy. I think you’re right. What amazes me, is how the terms “halachic” Jew and “Kapo” Jew are used to describe the same person, depending on what point someone is trying to get across. Jews are Jews: You yourselves defined them as the children of Jewish mothers (who, in turn, are defined as the children of Jewish mothers, as infinitum). You cannot divorce yourselves from these people: They are YOU — your schizophrenic “other selves”, if you will, but YOU nonetheless. People like Yamit, Shoite Guy et all delight in calling any American who isn’t a halachic Jew a “Christian”, and laying upon them the sins of all the world. Why do you and they then think it a strange thing that these “Christians” turn around and throw the same in your faces? You call the latter “Anti-Semitism”; but you make no excuses for the former.
Yamit, for all your bluster, let me remind you that YOU VOTED FOR BARAK OBAMA.
Comment by BlandOatmeal — November 12, 2008 @ 10:57 am
Bland I ans you this very question on another thread.
You are really obtuse. I voted for Obama because I figure he will be the worst thing for Jews in America and Israel. I think possibly that an Obama might be just what the doctor prescribed to … How does Sarah Palin say it “Shake things up for the Jews and Israel” If I am wrong and he turns out to be positive then I , and we have lost nothing.
My vote is negative and not because I support anything about him except my perception and belief he is Bad!! Will be very bad for the Jews and Israel period!
Comment by yamit82 — November 11, 2008 @ 7:17 am
That said, If you guys: Christian, Muslim, Atheist or other gentiles don’t take care of the Jews; given the chance in the future maybe some of us here will. A Jew who removes himself from the Jewish people in thought and deed and either sides with our mortal enemies or by default aides them against other Jews is our enemy no less than Gentile enemies and Jew Haters like yourself. My experience has been that some of the most virulent antisemites in history have been apostate Jews: like Paul and Mathew.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 11:15 am
Yamit, you’re getting slow in your old age — or maybe mellow? After my last post, I knew I had to look up the place where you said you voted for “Dear Barry”. I expected to see a reply from you before I returned, or perhaps twelve replies. Anyway, here it is”
Bugsy is very right about the “Kapo” thing, by the way. I brought up the “halachic” thing, just to remind you straight-laced, anal retentive religious types here, that this isn’t a contest between “Jews” and “Christians”; though I’m almost certain that NONE of you will see this: You will continue to paint Barry (whom even yamit voted for) as the “Christian”, forever deceiving and maliciously using Jews for the advantage of the “Christian” cause. You can take that thinking all the way to the gas chambers, which is where you are inexorably headed as long as you insist on it. If you wake up before they (your fellow Jewish sonderkommandos) shut the doors on you and turn on the spigots, though, which I hope you do, you will see the truth that Jews voted 5:1 to put you there, while Christians were 50:50 undecided. STOP SCAPEGOATING AND BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN MISTAKES, and you will start to see the light of day.
Until that dawn arises, I will continue to have abuse heaped upon me as a “Christian”. Heap away.
L’hitra’ot
Comment by BlandOatmeal — November 12, 2008 @ 11:19 am
Oat most Jewish Kapos who worked and helped the Nazis in the camps did do under threat of immediate death. While we may use the term as a pejorative. Most Jews have forgiven their actions as actions under extreme duress and one can never know or say that in similar situations we would do otherwise.
Kapo has taken on the common vernacular of Jews betraying other Jews when not necessarily being under life ending duress.
Not all Jews fall under the umbrella of Jewish obligation and responsibility for ea. other. In fact only the most deserving Jews who are deemed worthy. If you question the concept of worthiness we would need much more time and space to deal with such a subject, needless to say I would eliminate many if not most of those who voted for Obama because? Their newly attained religion called blind liberalism? Which is unJewish and quite pagan.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 11:27 am
Yamit,
I’ve been “tagged” as a spammer, and I don’t know if Ted has released me yet, but I’ll try to post this, just for you. You said,
What you’re saying, is that I should judge you by your MOTIVES (which, by the way, are pretty screwy) and not by your deeds. At the same time, I’ve seen you lambast others to no end because of their deeds, not even stopping to consider their motives; and at other times, when the deeds point to obviously good motives (like Christians wanting to support Israel), you supply dark “hidden agendas” to them. I wouldn’t go so far to say that you are “insane” because of these obvious incongruities, just too “human” for your own good.
People have doubtless called you many things in your lifetime, but let me pin a label on you that I think is accurate: You are a Zealot, someone like the Jews in the First Century CE who led Judaism on a path of disaster — a disaster the Jewish people have yet to recover from. You are a minor, insignificant voice in Israel, which explains why you post so prolifically here, where you can be heard. Your favorite party, Herut, hasn’t gotten enough votes for over a decade to get a seat in the Knesset — which isn’t surprizing, since you might have been voting for Meretz as a “protest” vote.
That’s not to say that I don’t like you. I do, because, like me, you speak your onions. I just wish you could put aside your anti-Goy hatred long enough so we could work together. By continually insulting me, my family and my countrymen, though, you make this well-nigh impossible.
All the best.
Comment by BlandOatmeal — November 12, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
PS Yamit. You said
Paul and Matthew never encouraged Jews to fight a hopeless rebellion against the Romans, nor did they inspire Jews to fight against Jews when they should have been preparing for the next Roman assault; neither did they acclaim the Son of a Fool as “Messiah” and lead the Jewish people into yet another disaster. You are jealous of Paul and Matthew, and of those who followed their teaching, because they SURVIVED and went on to fill the whole earth with their doctrine, while the Jewish people had to suffer 2000 years of indignity. Those Jewish people, by the way, include my ancestors, so don’t give me any guff on this matter. It was the Zealots and Religious Crazies who led the Jewish people down the road to ruin. Paul and Matthew were leaders of, according to most Jews I’ve heard, a small cult in Israel. They did not cause the misery of the Jewish people: The Jews brought it on themselves. Blaming them, is an example of scapegoating — something I would think a Jew like you would have learned about by now.
Comment by BlandOatmeal — November 12, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
Both Paul and Mathew ( who never really existed and is a composite of several authors probably Roman) never knew Jesus who might very well have never existed as well. At least not as the Gospels depict him. That said I used them as examples of Jews hating other Jews and not necessarily Jews physically doing violence against other Jews. But maybe there are better examples in the Tanach itself. We are a contentious people that for the most part have never put unity above division except as an ideal. I don’t know that I am a Zealot but maybe in certain ways I am. I like to think of myself as a fundamentalist.
Jewish fundamentalism should be just that, a return to the fundamentals. Not the Reconstructionist creative reworking of the commandments to suit the today’s preferences. Not the Reformist wholesale abrogation of the commandments.The fundamentalist’s answer is: You should not subtract a single word from the Torah – but neither can you add to it.
religious enforcement according to the Torah rather than Shulhan Aruch won’t be intrusive. What Jew in his right mind can protest the prohibition of exhausting work on Sabbath or leaven on Pesach? Even secular people would gladly agree to the mild coercion which forms Jews into the nation. And we can always select the ultra-left traitors for exemplary
execution.
Fundamentalist Judaism signifies a return from being a nice persecuted Jew to the real-life existence. Rabbis ban the evil speech, but Torah prescribes us to confront evildoers, reproach them, and stop their wickedness even by force, lest we share in their guilt through our inaction. The real Judaism, you see, is anything but nice and is rather militant. It is a religion for club-wielding Jews who are equally ready to place their clubs on the enemies’ heads and on Jewish transgressors. Indeed, the Torah commands average Jews who happened to witness the crime to execute the transgressors once they are condemned.
The Rabbi’s like to offer sinat chinam (unbridled hatred) for the reasons The Romans conquered Judea and sacked the Temple then sold Jews into slavery or forced exile. My take is different. The Jewish revolt was as much a revolt against assimilated Jews of their time who sided with Rome against their own people. It was a peasants revolt of mostly those illegally and purposefully taxed out of their property and lively hoods. It was also a messianic revolt led by rabbi Akiva and Barkochba. 20 thousand of Akiva’s students fought and died in that revolt.
Jewish fundamentalism sheds the man-made and resumes the man-abrogated in the theology of Judaism. The example of rabbi Akiva’s students is counterproductive to their aims. Instead of living on society’s welfare, issuing senseless fatwas ( halackot) over minute details of Jewish life, and waiting for messiah, rabbi Akiva proclaimed one. Akiva wasn’t a fool, far from that. He surely knew that bar Kochba’s chances against Romans are limited. Yet the wise rabbi did not wait for supernatural wonders or try to preserve his yeshiva, but proclaimed the war. Akiva chose dignity over life – and even over Judaism itself which he put at stake. Akiva reasoned that he should do his part and let the Almighty take care of the Jews. Akiva sacrificed himself and thousands of his students in the revolt, but he established a thing more important than human lives: the will to fight for the truths that we hold self-evident. Historicaly the Jewish wars was the beginning of the end to the Roman Empire they never again expanded . The Jews even in defeat showed the world that Rome was not invincible and the Jewish wars essentially put them in a state of bankruptcy and high inflation. Historically in losing we won. With unity and without an ongoing civil war we would have won.
I am not into ancestor worship(Paganism) it is really irrelevant to Judaism except any from the house of David or Zadok. Judaism is a way of life ordained for a people in a specific place. Thats what it’s all about. A convert who is according to halacha Jewish is as Jewish as any born Jew with a pedigree. Having some ancestor who happened to be Jewish is really meaningless unless there is a direct and continuous chain from the mothers side or if you want to stretch from the fathers. Half the worlds population has some Jewish genes floating around, so what.
I support any entity who refuses to give up a single grain of any part of the land of Israel and will support the re-establishment of the Jewish 3rd commonwealth with all the accompanied trimmings. Herut Likud and most or all of the others fall very short of my ideal. In truth I would support if things really go bad Jewish autonomy in Judea. Jews have no real historical claim to the coastal areas.
I have said many times here, I don’t hate Christians just Christianity. I wish no Christian any ill fate unless they are actively trying to harm me (physically or spiritually) other Jews or Israel. I have said if Christians want to support Israel do it from afar without any quid pro quo. You Christians certainly don’t need my approval in supporting us.
Comment by yamit82 — November 12, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
As I said before the election, obama will turn us into a banana republic.
Comment by Laura — November 12, 2008 @ 4:45 pm