1. BobW said:

I glanced at the material linked to the italics post of Israel Zwick. Here's positive feedback to the "Authors Note" with a contrary view. Prof Gil-White's material is familiar to many of us. There is also additional material not addressed.

None of the political intrigue represents first-time instances in Jewish history. And to you, O dishonored wicked prince of Israel,... Ezekiel 21:30, But the Levites did not act quickly. II Chronicles 24:5

What is not discussed, other than in passing, are the Jewish blocs. Does Edgar Bronfman represent a global organization of Jews? Is not the World Jewish Congress a vestage of an earlier era rehabilitated for PR purposes by money alone? Does Peres further a Jewish nation-state?

Our existential problem is internal. When resolved, we approach the invincible until Jewish education slacks off and the fourth generation fades. It's a recurring theme in Jewish history.

Only until a powerful Jewish organization is developed to address the Bronfman-Peres, et al matter, Jews will be murdered in Israel and afterward when Israel is disestablished.

The situation is not as cloudy as the numerous facts sometimes make it out to be. Look at the trend. US Ambassador to Israel Daniel C. Kurtzer held the same position as former US Senator Kenneth Keating. Israel is under attack as always. A small but powerful Jewish organization must be fielded to discredit those Jews who have motives antagonistic to Judaism.

As a sidebar, in the Bloc 1982-83-negative-, the paragraph betwen the FN71 and FN 72 notations, it's written "...in 1970, Jordan's King hussian had militarily expelled the PLO terrorists from his country.". The expulsion was by the IDF. King Hussein nearly became an Egyptian King Farouk in exile, if not assassinated by the PLO.

Stop superficially blaming the Achille Lauro catastrophe on the Europeans. The destruction of Israel is being caused by certain Jewish blocs.

Kol tuv,
BobW

2. Sara said:

It is at least good to see that someone cares to speak about the real issues, although nothing of this will ever be read or heard by Bush or Rice or anyone near them.

It is a paradox that in the "world's greatest democracy", there are virtually no communication lines between the political summit and the "realities on the ground". In the days of comrade Koba, it was, in fact, technically possible for sensible people around to have a chat with him on important issues.

3. Felix Quigley said:

I have not been able to read this particular material as I am writing this out of an internet shop. But I do admire the work of Francisco very much and indeed all the work of the site which is actually Emperors New Clothes (www.tenc.net)

A feature of their work is the attention they have paid to the experience of the US and EU (NATO and the UN) in Yugoslavia and I have often said here at Israpundit that Jews need to rapidly assimilate those lessons of what went on there, ESPECIALLY THE ROLE OF THE MEDIA.

Bob is definitely correct - there must be a new leadership built inside Israel, I think actually internationally because anti-Semitism is international.

I do think this at the moment
1. The Israeli masses have moved now away from and politically beyond Sharon and the type of Mapai politics he represents (Stalinism) and social democracy (Peres)
2. There is the same media conspiracy operating here in Gaza as worked in Yugoslavia
3. There is a serious vacumn of leadership nopw in Israel which will only intensify as Jews realise more and more that Likud to which they gave allegiance has totally let them down over Gaza and the Road Map
(By the way the Road Map is a Saudi Arabian Bush-Prince Bandar Road Map)

One of the features of secularism as practised by Mapai is that it was more akin to sectarianism, the sectarianism and Jewish self-hatred of Marx and Rosa Luxemburg. I wrote something of this on www.IrelandSupportsIsrael.com and I may have further articles on www.isill.blogspot.com

A feature of Francisco and Emperors New Clothes is the extreme care which they takle in sourcing their material. I have found this hard to do myself but they are masters at this aspect of research. I really cannot emphasise how important I think they are and I hope they turn their attention fully on Gaza right now.

4. felix quigley said:

I did some more study of the material overnight. The issues raised by Israel Zwick and Francisco Gil White can never be dismissed because they are true. Moreover in the article "Is America the ally of Israel" there is a whole history told, all very heavily sourced. Nobody, I mean nobody, can refute this without dealing with these sources. This is what Israel found also, that he was at first sceptical, but then when he checked he had to agree.

To my mind, these are not Francisco's opinions as such, these are conclusions which emerge out of the facts. The reader might say to counter this that he chooses the facts, to which the obvious reply is, then dear reader, go ahead then and you choose different facts, if you can.

I see the work which Francisco put together in this article as connected to the study made by Joseph Alexander Norland on this site on Eisenhower and Dulles. This material by Francisco is the most stunning that I have ever read. It is so important in that it characterises the PLO as the creation of the US CIA and to my mind it proves it. Now, dear Jewish readers, has this been widely known before? Tell me, please tell me, when Counterpunch and the Palestine Solidarity Groups were ever confronted with this!

One instance of this is the relations between the US (CIA) and the PLO in Beirut and the efforts of the US to hold the PLO together for another day.

This reminds me of the material by John Loftus when he explained how the Muslim Brotherhood were rescued out of Egypt and transported to Saudi Arabia by the CIA from whence sprung Osama Bin Laden. The CIA used him in Afghanistan and later in Bosnia to work with the Islamist fanatic Izetbegovic and then as we all know it was on for Osama to the Twin Towers.

This brings light onto the present Road Map as well of which the Sharon uprooting from Gaza is inseparable. Who is right there once more, none other but Peres, who Francisco suspects is some sort of agent for American Intelligence!

Some people might turn their uppity noses up at this material and murmur "conspiracy theory" and this would make me really mad!

The sad fact is that world politics today is organised at the highest level by means of conspiracy and the latest has been the conspiracy between the tops only in the US, Bush, Powell, the US embassador to Israel, but NO ISRAELIS and and the Saudis in the shape of Prince Bandar. All conducted in deadly secrecy! That is why I now call it the Bush Bandar Road Plan. As for Israel Zwick and further articles, he must follow this material up urgently. There is now a Media blackoput on the Gaza, a media conspiracy, and we owe it to the wonderful Jewish youth and pioneers of Yesha who face the Sharon and Peres Stasi every day.