Enough with Polite

Enough with Polite

A group of young British advertising execs, fed up with the Jewish establishment's delicate Israel advocacy, push for an in-your-face campaign, Jerusalem Report

[..]The real reason for such community negativity, he charges, is a generational one - a conflict between young, proud, angry Jews and an older leadership that has so successfully integrated into the British establishment they are terrified to take a stand that might upset anyone. "The elder generation like their peerages and knighthoods and the crusty kudos of it all and want to retain that," he says with much venom. "It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach."

StandUp4Israel's thesis is that British Jewry has utterly failed to address the anti-Zionism bordering on anti-Semitism they say has become institutionalized in both British media and society throughout five years of the intifada. Prime culprits, they maintain, are the BBC, with their insistence on describing Palestinian terrorists as "militants," and left-leaning newspapers like the Guardian and the Independent. The political sphere saw the May 2003 incident when Tam Dalyell, Parliament's longest-serving MP, claimed a "cabal" of Jews surrounded Prime Minister Tony Blair, not to mention the antics of staunchly pro-Palestinian London Mayor Ken Livingstone, currently facing a disciplinary hearing by the Ajudication Panel for England for comparing a Jewish journalist to a concentration camp guard. And all this time anti-Semitism has been soaring, with 532 incidents recorded last year, a 42-percent increase from 2003. [..]

Posted by Ted Belman at October 7, 2005 02:53 PM

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1. Leonard said:

I had never heard of this group until it appeared on your web.Like many other groups in the UK they seem to be launched with alot of fanfare -organise one well publicised event, make an appeal for money and then fade away. Our opponents like the Anti-semitic Mayor of London Ken Livingstone uses millions of pounds of tax payers money to organise anti-Israel jamborees like the European Forum held at Alexander Palace for thousands of European radicals put up in the Dome (again at public expense),invites and embraces the anti-semitic cleric Quaradawi to London. The Liberal MP Tonge who supports suicide bombers is awarded a knighthood.Orla Guerin the anti-israel reporter receive an Honour by the government .The Guardian and Independent newspapers continue to be an anti-Israel mouth piece.You only have to look at the anti-semitism that emanated from Labour against Michael Howard in the recent election campaign to recognise the anti-semitic campaign that UK Jews are up against. The Home Secretary has just dropped proposals to amke it an offence to glorigy terrorism.

Posted by: Leonard on October 8, 2005 06:50 AM

2. Ilana Rosen said:

I have heard of this group, and I have sent them messages of support. The problem is, however, the "A" word (apathy). There are many ostriches in the UK Jewish Community, and the attitude of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, although they do good work - is outdated and does not stem the tide. There was a suggestion that each family pays a some of money for the campaign - bring it on, I say - I would pay twice!!!

Posted by: Ilana Rosen on October 8, 2005 07:19 AM

3. Zalman said:

Very Good!
I was always pissed off and angry with the language many people use when expressing their opinions. 99.99% the language is so delicate and gentle that I want to scream and yell - stop this non-sense, stop talking like small kids!
Your talk sounds like mumbling.
Many people don't like to use strong language, because it's not "civilised"..."notpolite"...blah..blah..
Do you know why the media likes listening to arabs ? Yes, exactly because of the same reasons - they talk straight, they say EXACTLY what they think of Israel and the Jews.
On the opposite pole is Israel and the Jewish organizations using an extremely deffensive language.
Have anybody noticed that ?
NOBODY uses agressive language - WHY?
Have everybody forgot the power of the words ?!
I'm talking about REAL WORDS not sissy words.
From your own experiences - can anybody remember messages that you received or exchanged that had a boring polite language ?? I don't think so anybody remembers those.
But these messages with a very strong language remained in your mind very long time.
Because STRONG WORDS are EFFECTIVE and POWERFUL .
If you need to use F... word, use it. It makes an impression. It makes a strong statement.
If you use "please" that makes you look a moron, and your message will be forgotten the moment it's deleted.
So, my suggestion, use F word or other similar words and expressions whenever you feel it's needs to be used, when there is no other way to express your REAL feelings.
If we're going to hide our real feelings behind stupid non-sense words like "please" and "excuse", then how the other side will understand us ?
BE REAL and TALK REAL without bullshit.

Posted by: Zalman on October 8, 2005 09:55 AM

4. Leonard said:

Thanks for that Zalman - but its very un- British. Since July 7th the message is finally filtering through in the UK.There are excellent columnist like Melanie Phillips,David Aaranovitch and even a non-Jewish Director John Ware produced an excellent Documentary setting the record straight that had the radical islamic bodies protesting vociferously. Fewer than ten thousand protesters turned up at a recent anti-war rally inspite of considerable publicity, whereas sixty thousand people turned up to show solidarity for Israel four years ago which barely received 20 seconds of new coverage.

The problem in the UK is very different to that in the USA.To start with there are ten muslims to every Jew. The terrorist threat is more real as the government has abandonned border controls and let into the country thousands of AlQuada trained individuals. An anti-semitic Mayor who embraces radical Islamic Clergy doesn't help either.Alot of the hostility also emanates from a tiny minority of individuals who claim a jewishbackground like Daniel Machover who was behind the recent arrest warrant of Almog,and others behind the Academic boycott campaign.One of the leading editors behind the anti-israel paper the Guardian has also been flaunting his jewish credentials. Perhaps those individuals need to be addressed better with regard to the serious damage they are causing.

Posted by: Leonard on October 8, 2005 10:29 AM

5. Zalman said:

Leonard, I was in general, relating to everybody, British Jews, American Jews, Israel, USA,UK,Canada. Islam is presenting itself very strongly. The image is very powerful.
The reason - very strong ACTIONS. I repeat again: A-C-T-I-O-N-S. A variety of actions.
Does Israel produce any actions to counteract ? nothing serious, just empty talks and empty threats. The same with Jewish actions. There are no actions. Just "civilized" kindergarten style gatherings with childish "civilized" messages.
Will bibi be different ? not at all. he is full of shit.

Posted by: Zalman on October 8, 2005 01:32 PM

6. Jerusalem Posts [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

It's hardly surprising that these young men are peed off with the Jewish "establishment" who are quite happy to sit in their long-term, well paid jobs and not "stir" anything - just in case we get noticed!

UK Jews are in the same precarious position of the German Jews in the 1930's... and we have NO leadership to protect us.

It's very difficult for organisations to get started here - and there have been many, because first of all, the mainstream organisations will NOT recognise them, and second of all, the mainstream golden oldies do nothing but badmouth anyone new coming onto the scene and also ensure that newbies with good ideas and proven track record of voluntary work won't get any funding!

So we're in a stalemate situation.

The mainstream organisations mostly sit on their arses and do sweet FA - relying solely on the volunteers to do letter writing, complaining and media coverage - but NONE of these volunteers is recognised by any official British body as being representative of Jews over here.

Nothing will be done...

Bicom, who are all but impotent and were given millions to monitor the media have done little - and when I personally asked the national newspapers and their editors about this organisation, was told "never heard of them"...

The JIA, BoD, ZF, etc., are all well established and don't actually have to do any work to earn their money.

As for ALL these organisations - many of the people I've met have egos much larger than the State of Israel......

Posted by: Jerusalem Posts [TypeKey Profile Page] on October 8, 2005 02:04 PM

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