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I BEG YOU ..DO SOMETHING
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BobW
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That "window of opportunity" has since been closed by bricks and mortar. The sealed up window can be opened but I'd recommend to wait several weeks or a few months until Abraham Foxman's "They're trying to bring Christianity to all aspects of American life." leaves the news.
No action will occur as long as America's body politic sees Abraham Foxman as a "Jewish leader".
I do not believe Gabrielle Goldwater and Arlene (broadcast journalist in LA?) know how the US Government operates. Condoleezza Rice is a figurehead. Why not mention Richard Lugar's Senate Foreign Relations Comittee and Pat Roberts' Senate Select Committee on Intelligence?
Gaza, with its inherent Rafah Passage, - and the modifications to the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty-is a fait accompli. Gaza had the endorsement of the Council of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. By next year all this area will be territory within the new Arab state. The new Arab state has the imprimateur of what constitutes "Jewish America".
The only foreign desk editor I know is completely conversant with the situation in Israel. Many people DO know what is going on.
To apply political "pressure" ("...pressure must be applied to those political figures...") requires a political presence via a national organization. This does not exist.
If America's Jews fielded 6 to 7 Republican Senators and funded some national Republican causes, political pressure would be available. America's Jews, for the most part, have alligned themselves with the opposition. There are consequences to this, expressed in Israel's burn trauma wards, blind rehabilitation centers and spinal injury wards. During the Clinton impeachment, all 10 Jewish Senators voted against conviction. The political lines, vis a vis Jewish positions, were clearly exposed to the body politic. It is too late to open a fur coat store in Riga, Poland. Jurisdictions had changed along with the landscape and consequences. The US also has a landscape. Senators Keating and Javits have left the scene.
Gabrielle and Arlene mention:
-Israel Policy Forum
-the Reform movement
-Peace Now
I am waiting to hear someone of stature say that the Jewish people, like America's Christian people, are not a single historical unit.
The population numbers are much smaller than the charts display.
Israel is already seriously damaged. The evacuation of Gaza is the benchmark.
Kol tuv,
BobW
Posted by: BobW on November 20, 2005 04:59 AM
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Mary Hogan
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There is an amazing resemblance between the US and Moav in Jeremiah 48. Moav was so arrogant, and no one knows why they thought so highly of themselves, but they were arrogant...and finally were destroyed. The people at one point couldn't wait to get back to their homes, unfortunately, the homes were gone.
Moav had been peaceful for forever, or what seemed eternal until it was gone.
The US has let Israel down, like Moav. There are no bureaus to address, corruption has infiltrated the minds of the generation. There is only One, the Master of the Universe.
Posted by: Mary Hogan on November 20, 2005 08:06 AM
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Zal
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shtuyot!
More damage that Israel already sustained ?!
You know what means "shtuyot" in Hebrew ? Bullshit!
All these "agreements" are not worth the the corner of the paper they are wtitten on.
Every every piece of paper with all kinds of stupid "agreement" can be and will be used in the washrooms of the Knesset as needed.
"Agreements" are made for one purpose: to break them.
This is at least should be done with "palies", who are using lies in every opportunity.
"palies" are one big fat LIE.
So, why israel should respect these stupid "agreements" , if these "agreements" are based on LIES ????
Sharon is not stupid and he or Bibi or anybody else will do everything neccesary to manipulate the idiotic "agreements" the Israeli way.
If Rice thinks that she can manipulate israel, than she doesn't know how middle east works and that the normal rules don't apply here.
It's like the stupid big-fat headline on CNN: "The Fight for Iraq".... WHAT??!!
do these people seriously think that they can bring "democracy" to an arab country ??!!!!! ha.....ha...ha...he..
Posted by: Zal on November 20, 2005 06:09 PM
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fred lapides
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When this old lefty--me--suggested any number of times at this site that Bush was not the frilend of Israel that those on the right assumed, I was laughed at. In fact Rice et al are not acting on a free lance basis, doing this or that without consent from those aboive them. and that someone, aware or not of such matters, is the President Bush and those advising him.
Posted by: fred lapides on November 20, 2005 08:45 PM
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mal
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20248
Posted by: mal on November 21, 2005 04:20 AM
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Zal
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After yesterday political "earthquake", looks like Israel is shifting even more to the left. Sharon is forming a new "centrist" party , which will be Left oriented.
Peretz is a new leader of the Left, who is Leftist Left.
And the public is being even more brainwashed into false perception of "peeeece" with palies, by giving them everything they want.
Palies don't need to fight Israel anymore. Israel is on the right path to self destruction anyway.
Posted by: Zal on November 21, 2005 10:43 AM
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t
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The American"dinner table rich jews" are totally pathetic! All they care about is how to screw one another and make money!They don t care about Judaism or Israel only$$$$$$$$$$" Pathetic!!!!!
Posted by: t on November 22, 2005 05:10 AM
I BEG YOU ..DO SOMETHING
URGENT: FOLLOW-UP ON THE RAFAH PASSAGE ISSUE AND THE NEED FOR ACTION
As information comes available to me on the issue of the agreement Condoleezza Rice coerced Israel into agreeing to, I will share it and ask that it be share widely by you in turn.
I urge everyone reading this not to simply murmur some words of distress and then turn to other matters. I urge you to make the noise that is neccesary, both here in Israel and in the States.
Getting this information out -- via letters to the editor of various papers and phone calls to the foreign desk editors of those papers -- is critically important. People simply don't know.
At the same time, pressure must be applied to those political figures who are involved. Persist. If a fax doesn't go through, try again or use another number. If an e-mail bounces back, send it again or try another method such as calling instead. And I remind you that hard copy letters, written and mailed, are the single most effective way of getting the message out -- the way that will receive the most attention.
It now appears that before she embarked on this "negotiation," Sec. Rice received encouragement to apply pressure on Israel to make concessions from members of the left wing Israel Policy Forum, the Reform Movement, and Peace Now. It is imperative that Rice and Bush get the clear message now that these people do not represent the only voice within the Jewish community with regard to Israel -- let it be clear that they are no more than a minority!
I remind you again that there is a window of opportunity here with regard to the final signing of this abhorent agreement.
For your information, attachements providing contact data and sample letters are included again here.
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These are new points to use when contacting officials or writing letters:
1) The Rafah agreement does not call for the PA to prevent the movement of terrorists. The text only calls for the PA to prevent the movement of weapons. This is contrast to the Oslo agreements, which did make such a call. Whether the PA honored this is another question. Why are they now being provided with an arrangement that doesn't even require it of them at all? (With thanks to Dr. Aaron Lerner of IMRA on this one.)
Sec. Rice needs to be asked why she was willing to do this.
2) According to Haaretz, this deal that Israel has agreed to contradicts the Disengagement Law passed by the Knesset, which says that "Israel will oversee and guard the external land envelope."
Israeli decision makers must be challenged on this one.
RELATED:
AN URGENT APPEAL FOR ACTION BEFORE ISRAEL IS SERIOUSLY DAMAGED!!
Palestinian Official: No live video feed from Rafah (despite agreement)
Open Gaza borders threaten Israel - Their goal -- no Israel!
Hamas Leader: We'll Join the Legislative Council & Keep Our Guns
A LIST OF CONTACTS
Posted by Ted Belman at November 20, 2005 10:51 PM