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Israel from the Mediterranean to the Jordan
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A Time to Speak
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It is little known and should be widely publicized that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt not only intended the creation of a Jewish state from the Mediterranean to the Jordan, but also intended that all Arabs resident in that region be resettled in Arab states -- with generous payments.
Roosevelt was aloof and indifferent to the Holocaust, but he understood the oanly thing that would work in the Middle East. But he did not live long enough to put it through.
The terms now are considered very "incorrect" and people who even suggest them are pilloried. It would help to have it widely known that a man of FDR's stature wanted exactly this terms -- From the Mediterranean to the Jordan for the Jews and only the Jews.
Posted by: A Time to Speak on November 21, 2005 10:39 AM
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Bill Levinson
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"Any Arab who has ties to a terrorist organization will be expelled along with their families. All remaining Arabs will be required to take a loyalty oath, the violation of which will result in expulsion, before becoming citizens of Israel entitled to vote." Good. That means about seventy percent of the Pallies will be kicked out, as they richly deserve.
Posted by: Bill Levinson on November 21, 2005 01:58 PM
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z
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who would actually go for this? seriously. is it just a bunch of talk or will someone really act on the proposal. every year that goes by is making it harder and harder to save the jewish state unless someone just put's their foot down and says to hell with the un and this anti-semitic world.
Posted by: z on November 21, 2005 04:46 PM
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Salomon Benzimra
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Of all the plan of Michael Wise only its last paragraph makes sense: that Jordan is a Palestinian state and it shoud remain so east of the Jordan River.
His whole plan seems to have been thought of as a remedy to the "occupation", to which he infers repeatedly. Why bringing forward a plan whose premise is wrong, even though it is widely perceived (wrongly) as being true? Why not rather spend the same effort in bringing forward the true history of Mandated Palestine?
His statistics on the Arab population west of the Jordan River are not the ones I know. Only 1.35 million Arabs in the "West Bank"? Does this number include the UNRWA refugees in Jenin and elsewhere?
His parallel with the American states is far-fetched to say the least: Texans, Alabamans, New Yorkers and Alaskans have a predominant sense of their American allegiance, regardless of their local institutions. Even if the terrorist infrastructure of the "West Bank" is dismantled, how can anyone believe those same people would suddenly have any national allegiance to Israel?
This is where the dreamer comes in, very much like the Oslo dreamers half a generation ago who abandoned reason and foolishly embraced their most unrealistic emotional drives for Utopia.
Posted by: Salomon Benzimra on November 22, 2005 01:09 AM
Israel from the Mediterranean to the Jordan
By Ted Belman
I had the privilege to hear a talk by Yoram Ettinger yesterday. He is a key figure in Likud and is the author of the demographic report that proved that there are less than 2.5 million Arabs in Israel including Judea and Samaria.
I asked him what the platform of Likud will be in the upcoming election. He said "Israel from the Mediterranean to the Jordan".
I then asked how it proposes dealing with the "Palestinians". He advised that Likud will favour a new constitution which will include constituency elections rather then party lists.
Any Arab who has ties to a terrorist organization will be expelled along with their families. All remaining Arabs will be required to take a loyalty oath, the violation of which will result in expulsion, before becoming citizens of Israel entitled to vote.
It will also create a number of "States" based on geography rather then population, each of which will elect two senators to to sit in the "Senate" which is also to be created, just like in the US. All measures, before they become law, will have to be passed by both houses. In this way they can assure that Israel will be both democratic and Jewish.
He also said that the High Court would be reformed.
Sounds like a dream platform. If only they can create a dream team to win the election.
Posted by Ted Belman at November 21, 2005 09:16 AM