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WOW...what an extraordinary insightful and exhaustive overview of so much of ther world`s problems captured in this interview...the best feature of the analysis was the reference to the shul/school....demanding that is should be a vertical,not a horizontal experience...now if we could only convince the "Educators"of this simple,yet necessary concept.....pklein Posted by: paulklein on November 22, 2005 01:36 PM
As a history teacher once said to me "The Jews though they were going up in the world...., up the chimney!!" LOL Posted by: CopperFacedJack on November 22, 2005 01:59 PM
A super article; very pleased some of the Jewish elements are catching on. It's easy enough to follow Alain Finkielkraut's views because France is experiencing what the US has already stated to resolve; the Frankfurt school of thought is both a failure and dangerous - most especially to Jews. Finkielkraut is indeed a cutting-edge philosopher. He addresses the rap songs. These songs are political indicators no less than LePen's financial support. If only the evil French did not introduce Pasteurization into Algeria and the French Congo.... Kol tuv, Posted by: BobW on November 22, 2005 02:24 PM
When I read about what's going on in France I have to conclude that the situation of multi-culturalism as it exists in England is not so bad after all. As for that CopperFaced piece of sh** above, there are plenty of neo-nazi websites he can go to that share his warped and depraved perspective of the World, so I suggest that is where he heads to. Posted by: Leonard on November 22, 2005 02:32 PM
I happen to be French and I must say that I am extremely pleased to observe a prominent Jewish intellectual in his process of seeing light. There are indeed a lot of problems between French and Africans of French papers. France is now not a nation, but a creed, a try, populated by anybody from anywhere, a trial shareware in a sense... Posted by: Hated French on November 23, 2005 06:45 PM
How Mr. Finkielkraut's comments are different from the ones made by the Far Right? When he claims that " the national team today is black-black-black, which arouses ridicule throughout Europe", how he is different from Le Pen who claims French players are not "Real French"? Sorry Mr. Finkielkraut, but it is possible to be French when you are black, arab, jew, asian, christian, atheist...Being French doesn't mean being lillywhite. When Mr. Finkielkraut claims "this is a revolt with an ethno-religious character", he forgets to say that the poor suburbs who are burning/burnt contain mostly people from African Origin. He forgets to say the French Republic was able to maintain a part of the population in a social ghetto based on ethnic consideration. Ask the Harlis who sacrified everything to fight for France how they were treated! Nonetheless, I agree with Mr. Finkielkraut when he says that these riots can't be reduced to to their social dimension. IMHO, this is mainly about respect. These kids are treated like scum, so they act like scum. If you are black or arab, it is much harder to rent a flat or to enter a discotheque, you are harrassed by the Police, you are an usual suspect and this is a fact. I don't think these kids are fighting against the Republic, in the contrary, I think they are protesting because they are not part of it. These kids are also torn between two cultures, the one of their parents they see as a failure and a 'western' one, based on consumerism they aren't allowed to be part of. And to "Hated French", yes France is a try, populated by anybody from anywhere, and this for centuries, and this is what makes its strength, not affraid of the outside, not affraid to evolve. Posted by: Kerensky on November 24, 2005 09:55 AM Post a comment |
What sort of Frenchmen are they?
By Dror Mishani and Aurelia Smotriez, HaaretzPARIS - The first thing the French-Jewish philosopher Alain Finkielkraut said to us when we met one evening at Paris' elegant Le Rostand cafe, where the interior is decorated with Oriental-style pictures and the terrace faces the Luxembourg Gardens, was "I heard that even Haaretz published an article identifying with the riots."
This remark, uttered with some vehemence, pretty much sums up the feelings of Finkielkraut - one of the most prominent philosophers in France in the past 30 years - ever since the violent riots began on October 27 in the impoverished neighborhoods that surround Paris and spread with surprising speed to similar suburbs throughout the country. He has been following the events through the media, keeping up with all the news reports and commentary, and has been appalled at every article that shows understanding for or identification with "the rebels" (and in the French press, there are plenty). He has a lot to say, but it appears that France isn't ready to listen - that his France has already surrendered to a blinding, "false discourse" that conceals the stark truth of its situation. The things he is saying to us in the course of our conversation, he repeatedly emphasizes, are not things he can say in France anymore. It's impossible, perhaps even dangerous, to say these things in France now.
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