Beneath the surface
Beneath the surface
The Middle East has changed less than optimists wish to have us believe. Usually corresponding to any sign of moderation is a vile anti-Israel (or, more precisely, antisemitic) sentiment lurking right beneath the surface.
Friday's Washington Post featured an encouraging headline: Saudi Envoy Rejects Iranian's Comments on Holocaust .
Unfortunately, that positive headline masked the vile sentiments of Saudi Arabia's new ambassador to the U.S. that are quite clear in the article: "As far as Saudi Arabia is concerned, that's a historical fact, you cannot deny that, and people should move forward from that," Turki said.
The extermination of 6 million Jews by Nazi Germany during World War II "of course has affected our part of the world because much of the European and American sympathy for the Zionist movement stemmed from that horrific genocide," Turki said. "The occupation of Palestine since then has been a consequence of that."
(The Arab/Muslim world holds a number of contradictory assessments about the Holocaust: it denies it, it claims that the Holocaust is the reason that Europeans were allowed to build a country in the Middle East, it claims that Israel now carries out a Holocaust against the Palestinians.)
You don't need to read that statement closely to realize that Prince Turki is denying Israel's right to exist. According to him the only reason that the world acted to create Israel was sympathy to the European Jews. The idea that there's any historical tie of Jews to Israel is absent.
A few weeks ago columnist Jackson Diehl, who has a soft spot for "reformers" in the Arab world regardless of their anti-Israel orientation wrote of President Mubarak's efforts to fix the most recent election in Egypt in "Mubarak outdoes himself": What to do? First, President Bush should refuse to be spooked by Mubarak's would-be boogeyman. Though the Muslim Brotherhood is indeed fundamentalist, it renounced violence decades ago and has joined with secular opposition groups in calling for a genuine parliamentary democracy in Egypt. "[W]e are serious about pushing forward the process of reform, actualising democratic transformation and building a development renaissance on all fronts," said an essay published in Al Ahram last week by a senior Brotherhood figure, Essam Erian. That's an agenda the administration should be able to endorse -- and promote as an example for other Islamic movements in the Middle East.
And how would a Muslim brotherhood re-act towards Israel? Diehl won't address that. But perhaps this article sheds some light, "Egypt's Muslim Brothers brand Israel a 'cancer'": The leader of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the country's largest opposition force, called Israel a "cancer" in the Middle East and said its peace treaty with Egypt should be submitted to a referendum.
"I declared that we will not recognize Israel which is an alien entity in the region. And we expect the demise of this cancer soon," Mohammed Mehdi Akef told the state-owned English language Ahram Weekly in an interview published Thursday.
Yikes, this guy's in agreement with Ahmadinejad and, thus, even more extreme than Saudi Arabia's ambassador here.
Then, recently, Syria banned Aaron Klien, a Jewish reporter from entering. And Michael Totten's photographer got hassled by Hezbollah on suspicion that he was Jewish.
And when you consider that the Arab world - not even unanimously - only grudgingly considers giving approval to afford an Israeli humaniatarian organization the same protections every other humanitarian organization has around the world, you realize that the Arab world, on the whole, hates Israel, and hasn't changed much since 1993. This isn't a matter of making anyone a caricature. It's a matter of looking seriously at their statements and actions and drawing the only conclusion possible. Peace will not come when the Palestinians get the land they are demanding but when these attitudes change.
Posted by David Gerstman at December 18, 2005 09:40 AM
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Ted Belman
said:
Its obviously not beneath the surface but out in the open.
Posted by: Ted Belman on December 18, 2005 11:53 AM
2.
Raafat El-Maghrabi
said:
It is sad that Arab/Muslim anti-Israeli sentiments are matched in ferocity by Israeli anti-Arab/Muslim sentiments. Neither should be called anti-semitic since all Arabs and most Israeli's are semites. If I may add my two piasters worth; Egyptian's (I am one) are generally of the opinion that the holocaust was a European crime, and should remain so, particularly when discussing Israeli/Palestinian issues. Arabs/Muslims had NOTHING to do with it, although had Hitler succeeded we, as semites would probably have been next. It is not only irrelevant to the Palestinian stance, it is counterproductive to bring it into discussions.
It is also irrelevant what Arabs/Palestinians "think" about the holocaust. As far as they are concerned surviving German/Russian.. etc Jews, came to Palestine and displaced its lawful residents. The claim that their ancestors "once" lived there is almost anecdotal, after all we Egyptians can "claim" prior ownership of the whole area, AND we have the archeological evidence to prove it.
Historical claims are just that, however, how can you assess who has more right to a certain land? What is even sadder is that DNA evidence indicates that Palestinian and Sephardic Jews share common inherited traits(http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html). Does this mean that a Palestinian Christian or Muslim is less worthy than a Palestinian Jew? I know each party will respond with the claim that "God gave this to us", and constructive dialogue will cease.
The issue at hand is what we can do to establish a homeland for Palestinians alongside the Israeli's, allowing those of them who wish to return to do so, and to help them survive economically, not relegating them to a fenced slum (pogrom).
Perpetuating hatreds accomplishes nothing, just more hatred.
Salaam
Posted by: Raafat El-Maghrabi on December 18, 2005 08:17 PM
3.
David Gerstman
said:
Ted - I agree that it's out in the open. Unfortunately many who should know better allow it to exist beneath the surface of their pollyannish worldview.
Raafat - There is no such thing as "semitism." Antisemitism is a term coined - proudly - by a German named Willem Marr to differentiate his "scientific" hatred of Jews to the Church's superstitious hatred. To Marr Jews were really inferior, dirty etc. And he could prove it. Antisemitism is a term for Jew hatred nothing else.
If you don't believe that Jews have a connection to Israel, well then, by definition you are an antisemite. The Jewish presence in Israel has been a constant for thousands of years - despite harsh conditions imposed by different occupiers.
And why do you deny the efforts of Haj Amin al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem who was Hitler's friend and ally?
There is nothing reasonable about your post especially when you dismiss Israel's ceding of Gaza to the PA as a "fenced slum (pogrom)." Israel, under pressure and at great risk to its security allowed the Palestinians control of the Rafah crossing.
Posted by: David Gerstman on December 18, 2005 11:41 PM
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Beneath the surface
The Middle East has changed less than optimists wish to have us believe. Usually corresponding to any sign of moderation is a vile anti-Israel (or, more precisely, antisemitic) sentiment lurking right beneath the surface.
Friday's Washington Post featured an encouraging headline:
.Unfortunately, that positive headline masked the vile sentiments of Saudi Arabia's new ambassador to the U.S. that are quite clear in the article:
(The Arab/Muslim world holds a number of contradictory assessments about the Holocaust: it denies it, it claims that the Holocaust is the reason that Europeans were allowed to build a country in the Middle East, it claims that Israel now carries out a Holocaust against the Palestinians.)
You don't need to read that statement closely to realize that Prince Turki is denying Israel's right to exist. According to him the only reason that the world acted to create Israel was sympathy to the European Jews. The idea that there's any historical tie of Jews to Israel is absent.
A few weeks ago columnist Jackson Diehl, who has a soft spot for "reformers" in the Arab world regardless of their anti-Israel orientation wrote of President Mubarak's efforts to fix the most recent election in Egypt in "Mubarak outdoes himself":
And how would a Muslim brotherhood re-act towards Israel? Diehl won't address that. But perhaps this article sheds some light, "Egypt's Muslim Brothers brand Israel a 'cancer'":
Yikes, this guy's in agreement with Ahmadinejad and, thus, even more extreme than Saudi Arabia's ambassador here.
Then, recently, Syria banned Aaron Klien, a Jewish reporter from entering. And Michael Totten's photographer got hassled by Hezbollah on suspicion that he was Jewish.
And when you consider that the Arab world - not even unanimously - only grudgingly considers giving approval to afford an Israeli humaniatarian organization the same protections every other humanitarian organization has around the world, you realize that the Arab world, on the whole, hates Israel, and hasn't changed much since 1993. This isn't a matter of making anyone a caricature. It's a matter of looking seriously at their statements and actions and drawing the only conclusion possible. Peace will not come when the Palestinians get the land they are demanding but when these attitudes change.
Posted by David Gerstman at December 18, 2005 09:40 AM