1. Jesse Jacksoff said:

I think that before the nukes are used to take out the Iranazi regime (it may still come to that, of course), an EMP attack should serve to warn, humiliate and pacify the islamic savages of former Persia.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/kopp/apjemp.html

2. kuhnkat said:

This would be predicated on the assumption that Russia has not sold the tech to them to harden their sensitive sites against EMP and that they have not actually hardened them.

3. Ed D said:

Bill, I must say Amen to your thoughts. Americans and Israelis have a moral consious that imposes that they must be attacted prior to retaliation. That age is long past. A premptive strike on us, either would cripple or destroy us. This threat to us is real and we must take action before they do.

4. Yehoshua said:

Bill,

While I and I'm sure almost anyone else posting on this site agree with your assessment of Iran's threat, the brutal truth is that the current Administration in the White House-- whatever its thunderous rhetoric against Iran-- is meeker than a mouse when it comes to actually confronting the power of the mullahs. In fact, the Bush Administration is now actively working to make Iran even more powerful by essentially handing Iraq over to Iran on a silver platter. The most powerful, utterly dangerous groups in Iraq are the Shiite militias, especially the Badr Brigades of the SCIRI, who are not only pro-Iranian but actually trained in Iran, and now have the country's government by its throat as the Iranian-allied UIA takes the reins of power.

Iran has played the US like a fiddle through its proxies in Iraq (Sistani and the ultra-religious Shiite parties), perhaps with some unexpected help from Israel-haters in the US Administration like Condi Rice. Now Iran is on the verge of seizing control of Iraq's petroleum wealth, and its vast human resources and annexing them to its own-- that's over 80 million people and perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 of the world's known oil reserves, to be turned directly against Israel and the West. Democracy is not some magic elixir that cures all ills-- it needs things like the rule of law, a middle class, Enlightenment-era rationalist ideals, equality of political and educational access, and most of all limitations on the power of the majority and vested interests to function right. Otherwise, it's no more than a tool to grease the wheels of whatever thug is able to best manipulate the voters into handing him free rein. Thus it is that Iran is about to become the new Middle Eastern hegemon without firing a single shot. There could not be a more unimaginably greater foreign policy catastrophe for the United States in the region, and right now it's upon us.

The best thing for the US and Israel in Iraq, would be for the Sunni insurgents to bring down this wretched, unfathomably dangerous fundamentalist Shiite government in Iraq. In fact, the US military should be turning its guns and immense firepower against the Badr Brigades-- they're the real enemy here, and if they succeed in gaining control of the vast Iraqi landmass with all its resources, we're utterly screwed. But no, Bush is too feeble and weak-minded to see this obvious truth. Instead of confronting the deadly Shiite militias, he and his fellow idiots piss away $100 billion of US taxpayer money per year, shedding American blood to essentially hand Iraq over to Iran's control! Unbelievable!

The British are even worse-- much worse than useless. Throughout history, Britain's role has been to get its ass kicked by a better opponent even as its leaders make rousing and flowery speeches, either getting bailed out by an ally that actually does know how to fight or slinking away in abject, humiliating defeat (e.g. Afghanistan in the 19th century, well before the Soviets perfected it). Now in Iraq, the Brits are once again true to form-- bumming around on their bases while the Badr Brigades and the Mahdi Army take control of Basra. The Brits should be tearing into the Badr Brigades, pummeling Sadr and his thugs before they gain too much power, but instead the Brits are just lazily looking out as Basra falls to Iran's proxy militias. It's stupid, and made even stupider since the US and British taxpayers are footing the bill to wrap and decorate this gift to Iran.

5. Bill Levinson said:

"Now Iran is on the verge of seizing control of Iraq's petroleum wealth, and its vast human resources and annexing them to its own-- that's over 80 million people and perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 of the world's known oil reserves, to be turned directly against Israel and the West." Sounds like the scenario in Tom Clancy's "Executive Orders," in which Iran kills off a thinly-disguised Saddam Hussein so they can take over Iraq.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day and Saddam was right about Iranians and the Saudi Royal Family. Saddam may be one of the most evil men who ever lived but anyone who killed something like a million Iranian jihad monkeys can't be ALL bad.

6. John said:

Bring back Saddam problem solved... Lets have a new Iraq / Iran war for few decades & the mullahs will be on there Kneees, Then we can give Iraq/Iran to Israelis...........

7. Charles Martel said:

Ahmadinejad is not going to be around to witness the final act in this Kafkaesque performance. Reportedly, he was nearly assassinated a week ago and one can be certain that European and US agencies are expending considerable time and resources to ensure the next attempt is successful. The mullahs will get the point, there will be a major personnel shakeup in Iran, and the armageddon clock will be set back a few years.

Yehoshua however, highlights the dangers of the stupid and feckless policies of the Bush WH which must undergo dramatic revision if we are to avert Iranian/Shia hegemony and a continuing existential threat to Israel.

8. georg von mecklenburg said:

The Israelis today are afraid of their shadows. I cannot imagine that they will attack Iran or anyone else. The Palestinians have them on the " run" and Israel knows that it has lost the war to them. The best thing that can happen now is for Sharon to have another stroke, and Netanyahu a heart attack. Perhaps if both these losers would just disappear, Israel might have a chance at survival. I am not betting on that prospect, only wishing.

9. Bill Narvey said:

To Georg:

Wishing Sharon and Netanyahu away does nothing to solve Israel’s difficulties. There do not appear to be any Israelis waiting in the wings to take centre stage and lead Israel away from the path to peace it has pursued ever since Oslo when Arafat’s exile to Tunis ended and he returned to Israel to lead his PLO in their never ending pursuit of Israel’s destruction.

Israel since Oslo has lost its balance and ever since has been flailing around trying to regain it. The West has not been helpful as they press Israel to make concessions to achieve peace that will forever be elusive because Arabs and Palestinians have not equally been pressed to abandon their Jew/Israel hatreds and their dream of annihilating Israel and accept Israel’s right to exist.

Bill, Ed and Yehoshua,

If Iran was not aggressively pursuing a nuclear agenda that has many nations worried, Iran's President Ahmadinejad's call to wipe Israel off the map would have barely been noticed. Ahmadinejad was, after all, saying nothing different than so many other Arab and Palestinian spokespersons have been saying for a great many years.

Palestinian/Arab anti-Israel and Jew hating propaganda have become so routine for so long that it is simply not newsworthy unless other attendant circumstances draw attention to it.

The lies spread by such hate propaganda have however gained a foothold in the minds of many in the Western media and society.

It seems we in the West are not just into fast food for the body, but fast food for the mind. While easily understood lies inherent in Palestinian/Arab propaganda may not always satisfy Westerner's hunger for information and understanding of the Middle East and the Israel - Palestinian issues, it does affect understanding whatever hard facts and information are ingested, just like a spice flavors food.

Add to that other flavoring factors, like anti-Semitism, disparate national interests and perceptions amongst Western nations, Western nations whose fortunes are tied to a world oil based economy and therefore they are beholden to Arab interests, the ideologies of the liberals and the left, the human nature fear of dealing with issues that confront us head on and instead deliberately seeing it as someone else’s problem so we do not have anything to worry about or turning a blind eye and engaging in pollyannish thinking that the problems will go away etc., etc.

Israel is fast becoming the world’s sacrificial lamb on the alter of peace erected by the West in the hopes that radical Muslims including Palestinians, will be drawn to join the West in prayer for reconciliation and world peace.

Nuking or bombing Iran with lesser weapons will not solve the problem. Assuming such action could and would be taken successfully, there are a great many more radical Islamic fires burning.

Only a West united against Muslim terrorists and the vast network supporting and sustaining radical Islamists will keep radical Islam from acting to further their objective to tear down the West and replace it with an Islamic world dominion.

Given that the fanaticism of radical Islam prevents discussion and negotiation, a united West must drop the hammer on all facets of radical Islam. Such action would of course be bloody. The West abhors sacrificing its own blood, even one where its own life is threatened by radical Islam, whereas radical Islam has no compunctions in making its own blood sacrifice, in whatever amount is necessary to get what they want.

10. M..... said:

I am not sure which plannet, you, Mr. Levinson Last visited, was it the plannet of the late John Wayn; pissing at the character of the world of your Hollywood, or perhapps, some extraterrestrial places, where, when its inhabitants open their mouth to speek; instead, this smelly green stuff jerks out of their brains. Perhaps, the problem isn't really the Iranians, whom, basically try to develop their industry and lead a normal life. Perhapps, the real problem lies with some of your co-patriots, whom for some god-forbidden reasons, or over-inflated beliefs in their military 'power'; think they can tell other people how to lead their lives. Whatever the reasons, for god-sake, grow up.

11. kuhnkat said:

M................ or is that MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,

I claim the right to tell anyone they can DIE that tries to KILL ME OR MY RELIGION OR MY FAMILY OR MY COUNTRY OR MY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12. hmmmm... said:

Well, I guess I have to start by sayin hello!

Well I am a iranian, right now livin overseas, and yeah I disagree with Iran's regim 100%!!! but at the same time, only look at Iran with its neighbours: Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Israil, Russia and US at its door steps constantly... all armed with Nuclar weapons!!! What would you do to defend your country? don't be biased but think for a sec! not to mention Iraq till a while ago! I am not in favour of nuclear weapons, but if you have'em, who are you to tell others not to have it? Either a world free of nuclear weapons or live with the consequences... today its Iran, what about tomorrow?

By the way, its funny how western world doesn't like the government in Iran now, given that the CIA had a huge role in overthrowin the king and leaving the country to these people, just like Iraq! WHAT A MESS...

I see people talkin about usin nuclear weapons against IRAN, as if its a TOY! without any undrestanding of how many innocent people will die as the result! Do you have any Idea how many Iranians in Iran are against the current regim? I don't think so, here you are talkin about sendin Iran and therefore its people back to stone age? and you wounder why they hate you? I hate the regim in Iran, but by the looks of it, you guys are worse! You guys are extremests who have been watchin too many holywood movies, you know how every one hates osama bin laden, think about the things you have just said, he prob thought the same things about US! What is the difference between you and him? I can't see a difference, hope for your sake you can.

P.S. all you war fenatics grow up, If Iran or any other country suffers, It will bite you in the ass!(Perfect example Iraq) maybe use Brain instead of Bombs?

13. hmmmm... said:

Reply to kuhnkat: (I am not the person you send your last reply to):

Well the same "Right" you are claming to have, guess what? Iranians have it too... so with the mind set like yours, a War is inavetable, so at last you will lose possibly your life, a member of your family's and people from your country, and the list goes on, of course the same applies to the Iranians, so at the end you both lose... surely there is a better way? and if you can't see a better way, how about leaving politics to people who can, trust me its in your, your family's, your country's and the world's interest!

Ciao

14. kuhnkat said:

hmmmmmmmmm....

Thank you for ageeing that Israel has not only the right but the moral obligation to NUKE IRAN now that Ahmadinejad PUBLICLY CALLED FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.

PS: Other than Saddam, who is currently on trial with the help of the US, who is threatening Iraq like the Islamofascists, including IRAN, have been threatening Israel since 1947???

15. kuhnkat said:

hmmmmmmmmmmm said:

"By the way, its funny how western world doesn't like the government in Iran now, given that the CIA had a huge role in overthrowin the king and leaving the country to these people, just like Iraq! WHAT A MESS... "

Yup, it is all the nasty US and CIA's fault. The sweet, peace loving, fundamentalist Muslims have NOTHING to do with it.

Get a life MORON!!!

PS: Of course, next time we can sit at home and watch the communists incorporate your rear ends into their gulags and work camps up at the ARCTIC CIRCLE. I realise how much you all hate that hot weather at home and not having productive jobs and all.

16. hmmmm... said:

Well Well Well...

I am not going to turn this argument into me being against the world. Just as there are good christians, jews (not that kuhnkat is one) and etc, there are good muslims who just simply want peace. Just because since 9/11 all the sudden "Muslim extremests" have been rubbed in our face day in day out, would be unfair to lose not see these majority!

And by the way "Kuhnkat", you calling me a "MORON" well that shit doesn't even bother me... I mean it is commin from an idiot like your self, who is callin names just as some one states their opinion! with your narrow mindedness... I can see you in peace with your neighbours, much rather the world! Man I can't belive ediots like you still exist!

Yours truelly
Your anger managment coach!

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18. jetziger said:

Well, nuclear Iran or no, it seems we are slowly sliding into a "hot" war with Islam. I think that Turkey joining the EU could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The West is sleepwalking: we should have awoken with the Intifada outbreak in 2000, but NOOOO...and not even after 9/11, 3/11 or 7/7. The Muslims think long-term: but at the same time they are prone to overconfidence and I predict they will make a too-early move which although severely damaging to the West will not give them victory. I'm imagining a literal invasion of southern France by Turkish, Egyptian and Algerian troops, supported by rioting youth in Frencg cities + Al-Qaeda terror attacks.