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Palestine Solidarity spokesperson ambivalent on suicide bombings
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Laura
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"and kindred spirit for Kerry, who seemed eager to take both sides of issues like gun control, global warming, and Operation Iraqi Freedom (he voted for the funding before he voted against it)."
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Bush opposed Homeland Security before he supported it.
It was completely unneccessary for you to take pot shots at Kerry in a discussion having absolutely nothing to do with him. But even more than a year after the election, bush supporters still can't resist it. Perhaps given all of Bush's numerous lies and deceptions, muaddi and Bush are kindred spirits. I would suggest you stick to the original topic of your posts, instead of sneaking in issues that have no relation.
Posted by: Laura on January 14, 2006 02:15 PM
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Laura
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But since you brought up the subject I thought I'd just remind you of instances of Bush taking both sides of issues.
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Weapons of Mass Destruction
Announcing the invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003, Mr. Bush said, “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.”
Two months into the war, on May 29, 2003, Mr. Bush said weapons of mass destruction had been found.
“We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories,” Mr. Bush told Polish television. “For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."
On Sept. 9, 2004, in Pennsylvania, Mr. Bush said: “I recognize we didn't find the stockpiles [of weapons] we all thought were there.”
Nation Building and the War in Iraq
During the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush argued against nation building and foreign military entanglements. In the second presidential debate, he said: "I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be.'"
The United States is currently involved in nation building in Iraq on a scale unseen since the years immediately following World War II.
During the 2000 election, Mr. Bush called for U.S. troops to be withdrawn from the NATO peacekeeping mission in the Balkans. His administration now cites such missions as an example of how America must "stay the course."
Iraq and the Sept. 11 Attacks
In a press conference in September 2002, six months before the invasion of Iraq, President Bush said, “you can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror... they're both equally as bad, and equally as evil, and equally as destructive.”
In September of 2004, Mr. Bush said: “We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September 11th." Though he added that “there's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties,” the statement seemingly belied earlier assertions that Saddam and al Qaeda were “equally bad.”
The Sept. 11 commission found there was no evidence Saddam was linked to the 9/11 attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.
The Sept. 11 Commission
President Bush initially opposed the creation of an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks. In May 2002, he said, “Since it deals with such sensitive information, in my judgment, it's best for the ongoing war against terror that the investigation be done in the intelligence committee.”
Bowing to pressure from victims' families, Mr. Bush reversed his position. The following September, he backed an independent investigation.
Free Trade
During the 2000 presidential election, Mr. Bush championed free trade. Then, eyeing campaign concerns that allowed him to win West Virginia, he imposed 30 percent tariffs on foreign steel products from Europe and other nations in March 2002.
Twenty-one months later, Mr. Bush changed his mind and rescinded the steel tariffs. Choosing to stand on social issues instead of tariffs in steel country – Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia – the Bush campaign decided it could afford to upset the steel industry rather than further estrange old alliances.
Homeland Security Department
President Bush initially opposed creating a new Department of Homeland Security. He wanted Tom Ridge, now the secretary of Homeland Security, to remain an adviser.
Mr. Bush reversed himself and backed the largest expansion of the federal government since the creation of the Defense Department in 1949.
Same-Sex Marriage
During the 2000 campaign, Mr. Bush said he was against federal intervention regarding the issue of same-sex marriage. In an interview with CNN's Larry King, he said, states "can do what they want to do" on the issue. Vice President Cheney took the same stance.
Four year later, this past February, Mr. Bush announced his support for an amendment to the Constitution that defines marriage as being exclusively between men and women. The amendment would forbid states from doing "what they want to do" on same-sex marriage.
Citing recent decisions by “activist judges” in states like Massachusetts, Mr. Bush defended his reversal. Critics point out that well before the 2000 presidential race, a judge in Hawaii ruled in December 1996 that there was no compelling reason for withholding marriage from same-sex couples.
Winning the War on Terror
"I don't think you can win it," Mr. Bush said of the war on terror in August. In an interview on NBC's "Today" show, he said, “I think you can create conditions so that . . . those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."
Before the month closed, Mr. Bush reversed himself at the American Legion national convention in Nashville. He said: "We meet today in a time of war for our country, a war we did not start yet one that we will win." He later added, “we are winning, and we will win."
Campaign Finance Reform
President Bush was initially against the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill. He opposed any soft-money limits on individuals to national parties.
But Mr. Bush later signed McCain-Feingold into law. The law, named for Senate sponsors John McCain, R-Ariz., and Russell Feingold, D-Wis., barred both national parties from collecting soft money from individuals.
During the 2000 race, Mr. Bush showed support for the so-called 527 groups’ right to air advertising.
In March 2000, he told CBS News' "Face the Nation," "There have been ads, independent expenditures, that are saying bad things about me. I don't particularly care when they do, but that's what freedom of speech is all about.”
In late August of this year, in an effort to distance himself from controversial anti-Kerry ads by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Mr. Bush reversed his position, announcing he would join McCain in legal action to stop these "shadowy" organizations.
Though it would close the Swift Boat group's funding, court action would also silence well-funded liberal 527 organizations like MoveOn.org and America Coming Together.
Gas Prices
Mr. Bush was critical of Al Gore in the 2000 campaign for being part of “the administration that's been in charge” while the “price of gasoline has gone steadily upward.” In December 1999, in the first Republican primary debate, Mr. Bush said President Clinton “must jawbone OPEC members to lower prices.”
As gas topped a record level of $50 a barrel this week, Mr. Bush has shown no propensity to personally pressure, or “jawbone,” Mideast oil producers to increase output.
A spokesman for the president reportedly said in March that Mr. Bush will not personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds.
Posted by: Laura on January 14, 2006 02:20 PM
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Bill Levinson
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Well, Laura, perhaps Mr. Muaddi should work for the Bush and Kerry campaigns simultanoeusly. He could doubtlessly find ways to be for and against each candidate at the same time. :-)
Posted by: Bill Levinson on January 14, 2006 03:36 PM
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kuhnkat
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Laura,
I really wonder why you spend so much time defending a Communist stooge like Kerry who is Ted Kennedy's compadre. Please go spend a little time in the Soviet Socialist republic of Massachusetts and see the results of those MORONIC policies.
This beside the fact he would sell out Israel faster than he sells out American Patriots.
Posted by: kuhnkat on January 14, 2006 03:48 PM
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shoshanna
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Exactly, kuhnkat!! Thanks.
Posted by: shoshanna on January 14, 2006 07:09 PM
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Laura
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kuhnkat, the results are that MASS. is among the wealthiest per capita states in the country. A "socialist" republic you say? It's funny that all of these northeastern "socialist" states are wealthy and prosperous with very high standards of living, and all the conservative states in the deep south are poor. It kind of blows your theory out of the water, doesn't it?
Oh and another thing, it's also very interesting how anti-tax conservatives such as, for example Mitch Daniels, change their tune once they hold office and see reality before them. http://www2.indystar.com/articles/4/223476-3794-021.html
Anyway we have gotten way off topic here.
Posted by: Laura on January 14, 2006 08:36 PM
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t
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Am Yisrael hi fuck arabs!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: t on January 15, 2006 01:20 AM
Palestine Solidarity spokesperson ambivalent on suicide bombings
by Bill Levinson
Palestine Solidarity Movement spokesperson Nadeem Muaddi called my assessment of his "A Call for Christian Martyrs" "defamatory" for interpreting his words, "it’s about time more Christians step forward and offer themselves up as martyrs for a true and just resolution to the Palestinian Issue" as recruiting human shields. He now claims that he meant "martyrs" in the rather-unique context of emergency workers whose occupations might expose them to death, and humanitarian workers like doctors.
If Mr. Muaddi wants to publish Internet columns that will not lead people to conclusions he does not wish them to reach, he really needs to stop being ambivalent as shown in another piece, Suicide Bombing - Not The Issue! It is extremely difficult to judge from this article whether Mr. Muaddi condemns or endorses terroristic bombings of civilians; in fact, he seems to do both.
It is well known that the International Solidarity Movement, of which the PSM is the student branch, openly endorses terroristic violence and has in fact given safe house assistance to terrorists in Israel. Although the PSM claims it is separate from the ISM, considerable evidence to the contrary has been posted and there is no doubt whatsoever that the two groups are closely interlocked.
Now we have Nadeem Muaddi, an official spokesperson of the PSM, who takes a very ambivalent stand toward terroristic bombings of civilians. "Suicide Bombing: Not the Issue" says in part,
This demonstrates either the writer's ignorance of the facts or his deliberate choice to avoid mentioning them. Even if the first suicide bombing occurred in 1994, it was predated by countless other acts of mindless Palestinian violence toward Israeli civilians. As just one example:
Now Mr. Muaddi's article contends that suicide bombings, and by extension the Ma'alot school massacre and the Munich Massacre, are "symptoms" of the "Zionist" occupation. Mr. Muaddi must do considerable explaining, then, of why the Palestine Liberation Organization was established in 1964-- when the West Bank and Gaza Strip were under Arab and not Israeli control. A close look at the PLO's logo shows exactly what it intended to "liberate": not the West Bank and Gaza, which were under Arab and not Israeli control, but rather places like Tel Aviv, Haifa, and in fact every scrap of land that even the Palestinian Solidarity Movement ostensibly recognizes as legal parts of Israel.
I also refer Mr. Muaddi to the Fedayeen terrorist raids of the 1950s, and invite him to justify or at least excuse those as "symptoms" of the Israeli "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza. I think, however, that we have established beyond any possible doubt that Arabs were engaged in organized acts of brutal terroristic violence (albeit not suicide bombings) against Israel long before the "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza. This shows conclusively that Muaddi's assertion that terrorism is a symptom of the "occupation" is totally inaccurate.
On the basis of the following, I really think Nadeem Muaddi should have been a press secretary for President Richard Nixon:
"Suicide Bombing: Not the Issue" continues,This is like saying, "I cannot offer any justification for rape but the woman was asking for it by wearing skimpy clothing." This statement condemns and excuses rape in the same breath, just as Muaddi manages to condemn and excuse terrorism in a single paragraph. His article then says,
The first sentence says Israel is "forcing" the Palestinians to commit terroristic violence against hospitals, Seders, women, children, and male noncombatants. The last is a fairly clear statement that the terrorism won't end until Israel ends its occupation. (As shown by the Arabs' long litany of mindless violence prior to 1967, even this statement is simply not believable.) This is, at least to me, a tacit endorsement of terrorism as a means of achieving geopolitical goals.
Articles like "Suicide Bombing - Not The Issue!" do the Palestinian cause, and the Palestinian Solidarity Movement, far more harm than good.
Posted by Bill Levinson at January 14, 2006 10:51 AM