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what if we say that no jews died in Nazi's age?? Posted by: al-muiz on February 7, 2006 03:54 AM
I'm not islamophobic. I'm islamonauseous. Posted by: scott on February 7, 2006 04:01 AM
On the report on the BBC website yesterday morning (on the deaths of two protesters in Afganistan): "They want to test our feelings," protester Mawli Abdul Qahar Abu Israra told the BBC. "They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and to their newspapers," he said. Well, guess that cleared that doubt up......! Posted by: Jerusalem Posts on February 7, 2006 04:40 AM
Mass Rally in Trafalgar Square, London, England Saturday 11th February 2006 If you value freedom, democracy and peace then please attend this mass rally in London on Saturday 11th February 2006 at 12 noon This is your time so please, make your voice heard and show the world that you will never surrender to threats of violence Posted by: Jerusalem Posts on February 7, 2006 04:44 AM
By publishing blasphemous cartoons of the Prophet (p.b.u.h), the double standard of the Christian Europe is revealed. If these Europeans are really arguing for freedom of expression, then why they are unable to bear what others say about the holocaust, the myth. Denying holocaust is a crime in the so called DEMOCRATIC CHRISTIAN EUROPE. Shame on you Europeans. You are supporting every terrorist acts of Israel, one of the terrorist countries in the World, second only to the US in terrorism. Israel is everyday killing innocent Palestinian civilians including women and children, grabbing their land, destroying their crops. christain Europe is silently watching and allowing them to do all these crimes. They promised the Palestenians a state by 2005, Tony Blair, the Public Relations Officer of the Terrorist Bush promised all the Arab states that the Palastenian nation will be a reality by 2005, only to garner support for his and his master Bush's evil plan to invade Iraq, to steal their Oil wealth. What did you Europeans do thereafter. Now you are behind Iran, for accusing it of trying to make nuclear arsenal, when you all are having abundant weapons of mass destructions, including the nuclear warheads. And your foster son Israel is also having more than 200 nuclear warheads. And you are not doing anything against it, but accusing and threatening Iran for using nuclear energy only to produce electricity. You promised Iran all aid if they stop enriching uranium, but did not do anything for two years, and due to your cheating, when Iran started enriching uranium, you are now behind them with uncle sam, but without taking any action against Israel.. You CHRISTIAN EUROPE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CRUSADE? Do you want to destroy Islam? You are in fools' paradise. Islam will,ONLY ISLAM WILL PREVAIL. YOU ALL WILL PERISH ONE DAY, GOD WILLING. Posted by: P.K. Ashfaq on February 7, 2006 08:59 AM
Ashfaq, it's Islam as always which has the double standards, they've been printing hateful cartoons about every other religion for years. It's the clerics themselves who lied about the cartoons, by inserting 3 disgusting ones which were never in the newspaper. As for the one with the bomb in mohammeds turban - well, Islam has become a relgion of bombs and beheadings. It's a violent, agressive and mysogynistic political ideology as opposed to a religion. It glorifies death and jihad - something no other religion does. Your final comment just proves that you're not a peaceful religion, nor do you want to co-exist with other people. You just want to conquer, maim and massacre, much like your mohammed did when he took the Arabian penninsula by violence, rape, pillage and killing. At least there's some people who can see through your bullshit! Posted by: Jerusalem Posts on February 7, 2006 09:56 AM
Hey Assfag, allow me to apologize on behalf the the Judeo-Christian world. We meant no offense. And when I say that "Allah is a pussy and Mohammed is my bitch", I want you to know that I mean that in the best possible way. Posted by: MrSensitive on February 7, 2006 11:08 AM Posted by: Daled Amos on February 7, 2006 12:14 PM
P.K. Ashfaq, First: what is blasphemous in the 12 cartoons? That it condemns the murder of innocent people around the world in the thousands by Islamists? That it condemns the intimidation of those Islamists who wish to silence all criticism? Second: take a look at Neander News, where so far one of the 3 offensive pictures that the Imams deceptively added to the 12--has been traced to it's source: It is from a pig squealing contest. Some Imams have an awful lot of explaining--and apologizing--to do. Posted by: Daled Amos on February 7, 2006 12:22 PM
Furthermore its ironic that muslims would be comparing these Danish cartoons to anti-Semitic cartoons of nazi Germany, considering that throughout the islamic world right now, hidious portrayals of Jews are being published in their newspapers. Posted by: Laura on February 7, 2006 02:58 PM
Muslims in general: You better get after these so called extremists in your midsts pretty damn quick. You better do a very thorough job of convincing the West that you are indeed not all a bunch of murdering pukes. I suggest you think of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You can push and push and push and then ..... ooooops. The turning point. You think we're all pussies cause we tolerate your infantile crap. That's fine .... but we're just about 'this close' to squashing you all like the meddelsome cockroaches you are. Personally I can't wait because I REALLY believe in religious war. I believe because I truly believe in the battle of good and evil. You have proven a million times over you serve evil itself. Your religion is evil. In fact it's not even really a religion. Its a death cult fashioned by a pedophile psychotic. Posted by: scott on February 7, 2006 03:22 PM
Dealed Amos, Don't Forget that it is mainly and mostly muslims that are being killed around the world by "islamists". So when u use "innocent people", you are refering mainly to other muslims also. At the same time we think of muslims as a whole, and by doing that we convert those "innocents people around the world" from victims to guilty. Respect each other end of the story. Posted by: Pretzel on February 7, 2006 05:44 PM
I agree with the comments made by Ruth Mas. The history of Islamophobia is not as deep as that of anti-semitism in Europe. However the *repeated* publication of offensive cartoons by European newspapers show that the Europeans are on a slippery slope in that direction. The Holocaust was a terrible terrible crime. I just don't want Germany to kill 6 million Muslims before we realize that this moment was the start of a new malaise similar to anti-semitism. Just like Jews in 1939, the Muslim minorities in Europe are a vulnerable group of people. By vilifying these Muslims, we will make them extremists just like the London bombers. Will some neo-nazi gain power in Europe and wipe out these Muslims? Given the history of the European continent, its not inconcievable. For the record, I do abhor the violence in the Middle Eastern countries. These extremists are taking control of the dialogue on behalf of a Muslim majority. The Muslim majority must restrain these elements for their sanity, just as much as the Europeans need to rein in their newspapers. Posted by: Sachin on February 7, 2006 06:28 PM
Pretzel, Is it mainly Muslims being killed by other Muslims? Hindus murdered in India and Bangladesh. Of course there is also Israel...and the US. That's just in 2005. "we convert those 'innocents people around the world' from victims to guilty"? Not us, Pretzel. The Islamist terrorists do that. Posted by: Daled Amos on February 7, 2006 11:07 PM
The letters posted in this web site and reply to my letter is concrete examples of how intolerant are the Europeans and the Americans. They can’t even give a satisfactory reply to my questions. I am repeating my words here. By publishing blasphemous cartoons of the Prophet (p.b.u.h), the double standard of the Christian Europe is revealed. If these Europeans are really arguing for freedom of expression, then why they are unable to bear what others say about the holocaust, the myth. If publishing any thing in the name of freedom of expression, then it is my freedom of expression to doubt and deny the existence of the so called HOLOCAUS, THE MYTH. Denying holocaust is a crime in the so called DEMOCRATIC CHRISTIAN EUROPE. Shame on you Europeans. Your double standards and enmity towards Muslims are evident from the following. If you are hell bent on freedom of expression, why you are preventing muslim girls and women from wearing head scarves. Wearing head scarves is their freedom of expressing herself. But in European Countries it is not allowed. NOT DOUBLE STANDARD? You the Europeans and the US is pursuing a policy of double standards when it comes to democracy. For you, democracy means the party or the government whom you support should win the election. If the winners are your opponents, you will not allow them to form the Government. Examples: In Algeria , the Islamic Salvation Front won the election with huge majority. But the so called CHRISTIAN EUROPE, PARTICULARLY FRANCE, along with the world’s No. 1 terrorist country, the USA, interfered and made the Military take over the control. Now the country is under civil war. Who is responsible for that, no doubt, the CHRISTIAN EUROPE AND THE USA. What happened in Turkey? Even though the Islamic Pary led by Najmudheen Arbakan won the elections , you the Europeans with the help of military there, cancelled the elections and made the military to take control there also. Now these Europeans have got retaliation. Again in Turkey, Islamic Party is ruling. What happens in Egypt? Europe’s and America’s friend Husni Mubarak is ruling for so many years without any democracy. And he recently conducted an mock election. You Europeans and Americans call them Democracy? When your friends are making mockery of democracy you have no complaints. When your opponents wins the election, you try to topple those governments. What a double standard? Now you are aginst Hamas. Hamas’s victoy shocked you? You want them to recognize Israel? How can you recognize a country which is illegally occupying your territory and flouting all the resolutions passed by you in the Security Council? A country which is killing your people every day? You promised the Palestineans a state by 2005. What you have done to fulfill your promise? Will you stand as a silent spectator, if any other country illegally occupy your land and kill your people, destroying your agricultural crops, dividing your land by great walls and harassing you always? What did you do in Bosnia Herzegovina? You allowed the Serbs, the insane and maddest people in the world, to systematically kill the muslims of Bosnia, in the heart of Europe. When you were supplying arms to the Yugoslavians and the Serbs, you prevented the Bosnians from acquiring any weapons to defend them by bringing an arms embargo against them. And thereby joined with the Serbs in massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims, including women and children. You raped muslim women of Bosnia. Bosnian Vice President was killed by the Serbs from dragging him out of the UN armoured vehicle in the presence of your European peace keeping force. They killed him in front of your Peace Keeping Force.. You deliberately assisted the Serbs to kill him.. Radovan Karadjic , the War Criminal is still being protected by you, the Europeans. You are supporting every terrorist acts of Israel, one of the terrorist countries in the World, second only to the US in terrorism. Israel is everyday killing innocent Palestinian civilians including women and children, grabbing their land, destroying their agricultural crops. Christian Europe is silently watching and allowing them to do all these crimes. They promised the Palestenians a state by 2005, Tony Blair, the Public Relations Officer of the Terrorist Bush promised all the Arab states that the Palastenian nation will be a reality by 2005, only to garner support for his and his master Bush's evil plan to invade Iraq, to steal their Oil wealth. What did you Europeans do thereafter? Now you are behind Iran, for accusing it of trying to make nuclear arsenal, when you all are having abundant weapons of mass destructions, including the nuclear warheads. And your foster son Israel is also having more than 200 nuclear warheads. And you are not doing anything against it, but accusing and threatening Iran for using nuclear energy only to produce electricity. You promised Iran all aid if they stop enriching uranium, but did not do anything for two years, and due to your cheating, when Iran started enriching uranium, you are now behind them with uncle Sam, but without taking any action against Israel.. You CHRISTIAN EUROPE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CRUSADE? Do you want to destroy Islam? You are in fools' paradise. IN THE END ISLAM,ONLY ISLAM WILL PREVAIL, GOD WILLING. Posted by: P.K. Ashfaq from INDIA on February 8, 2006 12:14 AM
Sachin, what evidence do you have that shows that the jihadist are a minority? It's become almost a cliche' to apologize for the muslim world with the phrase "These extremists are taking control of the dialogue on behalf of a Muslim majority." On the contrary, the actual evidence shows that it is the majority that are wild-ass murderers. I sympathize for the minority that are muddied by this behavior, but until such a time as islam is subdued, they, too, are the enemy. For Assfag, since you like to just repeat the same thing without answering any real challenges to your murky logic, I'll repeat: "Allah is a pussy and Mohammed is my bitch." Please don't kill me - I know that you're really just a peaceloving guy who's reputation has been tarnished by a radical minority. I hope we can hang out one day soon - you seem like a guy that really knows how to party. Posted by: MrSensitive on February 8, 2006 04:52 AM
"What did you do in Bosnia Herzegovina? You allowed the Serbs, the insane and maddest people in the world" LOOOOOOL!!!! And here we have you complaining against bigotry against muslims! You just couldn't make this stuff up, could you? I am at the moment too busy to debunk ashfaq'a lies about the Bosnian war, but if he continues to tempt me... Posted by: milos on February 8, 2006 08:35 AM
Hey Mr. Sensitive, Posted by: P.K. Ashfaq from INDIA on February 8, 2006 08:43 AM Post a comment |
Comparing the Danish Cartoons to Der Sturmer?
In Cartoon Muhammads and the Academic Caricature, Alexander H. Joffe of Campus Watch notes that The Toronto Star reports the following comparison being made by Ruth Mas, a lecturer in Islamic studies at Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo:
Take a look again at the 12 pictures from Denmark's newspaper (click on image to see entire cartoon--at Human Events Online)
First of all, if any of the pictures above are at all demonizing, they are doing no more than commenting on the events of the past several years of Islamist terrorism (see A Year of Islamist Terror: The Numbers and What a Month of Islamist Terrorism Has Wrought). Islamist terrorists have already succeeded in demonizing Islam and Moslems.
That point is already being made, according to the Toronto Star article:
Secondly, if the 12 cartoons were truly that offensive, Imams such as Abu Laban would not have resorted to adding truly offensive to the original 12--additional pictures of unknown origin that were not distinguished from the original cartoons when Abu Laban and the Danish Moslem delegation went on their Middle-East tour (see The Anti-Denmark Riots: Has Pallywood Gone Global? and Translation of The Danish Moslem Delegation Letter).It's time to end the absurd game of equivalence. We may be at a pivotal point where the West can take a stand for basic Western principles, or cave in and continue the slide into a future of uncertainty and subservience to intimidation.
Crossposted at Daled Amos
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Posted by Daled Amos at February 7, 2006 02:33 AM