background you would realize that my interest in philosophy in general comes very naturally. It came with my

mother’s milk. Now let me toot my own horn and relate a most fascionating story. A tale that might have

influenced world history (no bullshit). My great grandfather, on my father’s side was Ludwig Wittenstein the

world famous German Jewish-philosopher. Not only was he a great contibutor to Philosophical -now here is where

it gets interesting-he was a classmate of Adolph Hitler. As the story goes his relationship with Hitler was

extremely unfriendly, they hated each other, and some people say that a lot of Hitler’s antisemitism stemmed

from that bitter connection to my father. See wikipedia. I thought you just might enjoy reading this anecdote

totally unrelated to the discussions at hand. Thank you for the attention.

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movement are anti-religious in keeping with our rationalist position. However no one can say in all

honesty, as you have alluded several times, that the movement inspired by AYN RAND IS ANTI- ISRAEL. That would

be a libel of a high order.

Here is the evidence,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU

Martel using your Roman gladiatorial analogy I remembered this post, I posted I think last year.

Jew fight fair!!

The Romans in full view of the crowds in the Coliseum were going to feed a Jew to the lions. They dug a hole five feet deep, put in the Jew standing up and buried him to his neck, so that only his head was above ground. They then let out the lion that was starved for two days. The lion with his mouth drooling went straight for the Jew and circled his prey before eating it. When it got close, the Jew bit it. It yelped and ran away. From the stands of the Coliseum, someone screamed, “Jew, Fight Fair!”

That Roman now sits in the State Department and the United Nations and every time Israel offers any half-hearted response to an attack on Jewish civilians, he keeps reiterating, “Israel is using excessive force—Jew, Fight Fair!”

What do they want from us? When Joseph’s tomb was ransacked, the yeshiva and synagogue burned to the ground, Jewish holy books desecrated, and Jews barred entry to this holy site, Israel set up a roadblock. Someone from the Coliseum screamed “Jew, Fight Fair!”

When Arabs tried to kill Jewish worshipers at the Western Wall and banned Jews from visiting the Temple Mount, the site of the JEWS’ first and second Temples, Israel again set up roadblocks, and someone from the Coliseum again screamed “Jew, Fight Fair!” Jews still can’t go to Joseph’s Tomb or on the Temple Mount and Israel still resorts to roadblocks and that someone is still screaming “Jew, Fight Fair!”

What do they want from us? When a sniper intentionally targets a baby and kills Shalhevet Pass in cold blood, Israel destroys a few buildings. From the Coliseum, someone screams “Jew, Fight Fair!”

A family driving home from Jerusalem was targeted; the mother and father shot to death and children seriously injured, and Israel “retaliated” by setting up an army lookout at the spot. This lame response only drew a louder “Jew, Fight Fair!!”

Two boys were exploring a canyon on the side of their town when they were beaten, tortured for hours, their faces and heads bashed in so that they were unrecognizable and their bodies mutilated mercilessly. In retaliation, Israel hunted down the leaders that gave the order to commit this atrocity, and the Coliseum is roaring with “Jew, Fight Fair!!”

In contrast, the U.S. sent over a thousand armed law enforcement officers in with heavy equipment and killed, instead of arresting, the Branch Davidians of WACO. Janet Reno admitted it, but called it a mere “show of force.” In retaliation for the undisputed excessive force in WACO there was a bombing in Oklahoma. Soon they will be executing the Oklahoma bomber, Timothy McVeigh. [My comment-- in other words, even assuming that the U.S. government was guilty of using excessive force in Waco, McVeigh still deserved to die for killing innocent people.]

Yet those bombers that exploded buses and marketplaces in Israel’s major cities—Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Hadera, Petach Tikvah—go free. While Israel’s streets are strewn with scattered body parts, Israel blows up some vacant buildings and sets up yet more roadblocks. The State Department considers that excessive force and George Mitchell and his “Report” screams “Jew, Fight Fair!”

You know what they want from us? They want us to react to the Arab murderers the same way that we did to the Nazis who tortured, mutilated, and killed over six million of us. Do NOTHING! We are too civilized to respond directly to the intentional slaughter of children and we even applaud granting the Nobel Prize to the killer of the Ma’alot children and numerous other women and children.

No, we Jews are civilized and after the Arabs kill the last Jew in Israel we are expected to collect money to make yet another memorial dedicated to the memory of murdered Jews THIS TIME at the hands of fanatic Arabs with genocide on their minds. If we do anything to avert this second Holocaust upon Jews, someone from the Coliseum will scream…
“JEW, FIGHT FAIR!”

The Tanach on war:

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

3:5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

3:6 A time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

3:7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.

http://www.icasualties.org/oef/bytheatre.aspx

lest we forget.

Still, Muslims did not start pouring money into Afghanistan. They did not condemn the United States. The UNSC did not meet to discuss the normal wartime behavior which the liberals had declared criminal.

This attitude contrasts markedly with Muslim hysterics over Israel’s occasional killing of a few Arabs, or with the support extended to Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion. In the last case, America actively promoted the Afghani cause. In the first case, America provokes the Arabs by condoning their verbal and military attacks on Israel (Fatah receives American aid despite continual acts of terrorism against Jews). If the United States had supported Israel unequivocally, the Arabs would have been as indifferent to our operations in Gaza and the West Bank as they are toward Afghanistan.