Don’t Even Allow Hamas to Bury its Dead
Kill them and then cluster-bomb their funerals
by Bill Levinson
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I come to thee for charitable licence,
That we may wander o’er this bloody field
To book [count, identify] our dead, and then to bury them;
Montjoy the herald in King Henry V
Respect for the dead has been a standard of warfare since the days of the Iliad, in which truces were often called and observed so both sides could retrieve and bury their dead comrades. The custom of firing a volley during a military funeral may have originated in the pike and shot era, when the volley signified that the soldiers had completed the funeral and were ready to resume combat.
This tradition and courtesy is reserved for soldiers as opposed to terrorists who ambush and murder civilians. Our position is accordingly that Israel should deliberately target the funerals of Hamas terrorists with cluster bombs and similar munitions whose purpose is to kill as indiscriminately as possible–noting that many Hamas members will doubtlessly be present to have their limbs blown off and their bodies ripped apart. Israel needs to make it clear that it does not recognize terrorists as soldiers or even as human beings, a point that the famous firearm instructor Jeff Cooper made clear by using the word “goblins” to refer to enemies of civilized Humanity. The following shows what Colonel Cooper might call the “right mindset.”
- The goblins do not hijack El Al. Not any more. …Some years ago two pirates attempted to take over an Air Iberia flight from Madrid to Rome. The passengers killed them, the stewardesses covered them up with blankets, and opened the bar. [What is Spanish for "Now comes Miller Time?"] …More recently a troll seized a girl in a Philippine bank, doused her with gasoline, and threatened to burn her if he was not given all the ready money. The customers not only beat him to death, they actually dismembered him!
This is how the Israeli military, and indeed Israeli civilians, need to treat the goblins. Put them down and put a round through each one’s head to make sure or, if no firearm is available, slam one’s heel into each one’s head (aim inside the head and not at its surface) until it stops moving. When its family tries to bury it, it had better do so in secret unless it wants an IAF plane to drop a bomb and solve even more problems. Goblins are not human beings with human rights, they are things to be exterminated like the menaces to civilization they are.
Hamas leader rejects talks with Israel reinforces this position
- GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — The top Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip rejected compromise with Israel in a fiery speech Wednesday, a day after gunmen killed four Israelis in a strong reminder that the Islamic militant group cannot be ignored in any Mideast deal.
…Hamas has claimed responsibility for Tuesday’s shootings, a vivid reminder that the Iranian-backed group may be locked out of the peace negotiations but remains a key player in determining their outcome.
Fine; they reject compromise and admit their guilt, so kill them on sight and kill them to the last man. We would in fact go so far as to encourage the IDF and groups of armed Israeli civilians to hunt and kill them for sport. Israel needs to traumatize Hamas, and the United States Al Qaida, to the point where the survivors will be glassy-eyed shells of human beings who cringe if even one word is spoken in Hebrew or English respectively. Terrorists understand only the most basic argument of the most savage primate, i.e. a club over the head, and that argument needs to be made as frequently and forcefully as necessary to break the cycle of violence.
A great idea. They are cockroaches and should be treated like cockroaches. They have made it abundantly
clear that they have no intention of accepting any sort of peace so the answer is to kill them before they
can kill helpless civilians. Who cares what the U.N. says, they are subverted by the muslim countries
anyway.
A time to kill?
King Solomon (Ecclesiastes) says there comes a time to kill.
The palestinian muslim savages who just killed four Israeli Jews first shot up their car, then they opened the car doors and emptied their rifles into the bodies, attempting to dismember the Jews with their bullets. This was in the middle of ramadan, and presumably the muslims were screaming “alla hu akbar” as they shot.
One of the Jews was pregnant. The muslims call that a “twofer”. They thank allah for not only the privilege of killing a Jewish woman, but of preventing a Jewish baby from growing up.
The Israeli government is composed of ghetto Jews. Of course, they automatically urge restraint, and will arrest and persecute any Jew who seeks justice. Of course, it is never the wives or kids of the Jewish “leaders” who are slaughtered, only the Jewish settlers, who apparently are expendable.
Maybe this should stop. Maybe if the Israeli leaders, or their families, along with the Israeli leftists, were killed whenever a settler is killed, they would be a bit more zealous to protect the settlers.
But how about just this: the palestinains kill the Israelis because the palestinains are muslims, and the Israelis are Jews. So as a minimum, why not close off the Temple Mount and the Cave of the Patriarchs to the muslims for a month at at time, whenever they kill a Jew?
Can you imagine the jewish kapo Netanyahu, or any supposed “Jewish” leader, proposing this? Of course not. And that’s because they suck.
If real Jews cannot take control through the ballot box, they have to start considering the use of force.
If once again, after the christian nazi slaughter of six million Jews, it is coming down to “kill or be killed”, this time I vote “kill”.
Remember the two rabbis who shocked (shocked!) everyone with the idea that the Jews should become madmen. These ideas combined with what Bill has written, look better all the time.
I also think this is an excellent idea.
Ahh, but I am not suggesting that Israelis become madman.
I am suggesting that Israelis emulate the history of other Euro-American countries by using science and engineering to kill terrorists systematically, scientifically, and efficiently–assembly line style is desirable. I would be quite comfortable with the conversion of a meat packing factory to systematically slaughter Hamas and Al Qaida terrorists like pigs or cattle, and then process their bodies into soap, fertilizer, and other products of actual use to civilization. And if the latter sounds like what the Nazis did, it is to be remembered that the Nazis did it to innocent people who were either loyal German citizens (the Jews) or people in neighboring countries who were minding their own business (the Poles) as opposed to ambushing cars full of German civilians and killing everybody inside. I would go so far as to say that Zyklon B has legitimate uses for extermination of rodents (it is still sold for that purpose) and terrorists. There were also legitimate uses for the crematoria; that is how the Allies disposed of several Nazi war criminals after they were hanged, and the same could be done with the dead terrorists.
On the battlefield (or for the extermination of a mob of militant “Muslims” that is stoning a helpless person, probably a woman, to death) the machine gun has enjoyed a proud history. That was how thousands of Mahdists were gunned down at the Battle of Omdurman. Today of course you can put a canister shell (effectively a 12 centimeter cylinder full of ball bearings or nails) into a tank gun and cut loose with it; it makes a real mess of whatever happens to be in front of it.
Of course, the Israeli counterparts of people like Tania Chernova, Alvin York, Vasily Zaitsev, and Simo Häyhä (known to the Soviets as the White Death) are also useful noting that a good sniper can put a shot through a bad guy at half a mile or even more. Simo Häyhä killed more than 500 of his country’s enemies in less than a year; probably more than the ENTIRE IDF has killed in the past year! The difference is of course that the Finnish government ordered and authorized the White Death to kill anything in a Soviet uniform, while the IDF (and U.S. Army) probably have to fill out a dozen forms and get Presidential authorization to off even one terrorist. Israel really needs to learn something from this.
More about canister (from the Global Security Web site)
Imagine an Abrams (or Merkava) tank letting one of these off into a mob of Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, or other bipedal vermin. Tungsten is incidentally denser and harder than lead; imagine what it does to the (sub)human body upon impact. It sounds ideal for mowing down mobs of terrorists that are for example stoning a helpless person to death or lynching a peaceful Palestinian.
Shit levinson you phony hypocrite A-Fatah, has killed more Jews than has Hamas. B- Islamic Jihadhas a credible number. C- Hamas?
This includes most of all the Pali family as all support at least one of the three groups… What the F..K difference does it make how we kill them as long as they are dead?
Before the PC crowd got the upper hand here Israeli Jews have shown we were pretty good at killing our enemies. We killed hundreds of POW’s Mostly Egyptian but also other like Palis.
Read about a guy I know(Saved my ex wifes life) Meir Har Zion He is the Greatest Jewish fighter since Bar Kochba: Read about his exploits. Give me 50 fighters like Har Ziob there would not be an Arab problem anywhere.
When you kill your enemies it’s down to every living one of them men women children. Your moral compass or what you use for a moral compass is impossible to affect as in most cases you can’t identify specific enemies and in the Arab world it is clannish and tribal warfare. All do what the clan approves of and supports.
What is the difference of the Partisans in WW2 the Russians where tens of thousands acted as suicide bombers against the Germans. Allied soldiers volunteering for suicide missions? What the palis do and what we call terror is understandable from their point of view.
Our duty is to protect ourselves and nothing does that better than to kill as many Palis as possible and driving out those left alive.
PA Honors Woman for Raising Killers, Human Rights Groups Attend
by Maayana Miskin
As direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority began this week in Washington, the PA gave an award to a woman for raising four sons who all murdered Israelis in terrorist attacks.
PA Minister of Prisoners Affairs Issa Karake gave the “Shield of Resoluteness and Giving” to the mother of the Abu Hamid brothers, four of whom have been sentenced to life in prison for terrorism, in a ceremony reported by the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida and translated by Palestinian Media Watch. A fifth was killed fighting Israel in 1994.
The woman was referred to by PA media only as Umm Yusef, “mother of Yusef,” and not by her given name. She was also referred to as “Khansa of Palestine,” a reference to the legend of a woman from the days of the beginning of Islam, who rejoiced when her four sons were all killed in battle.
Umm Yusef Abu Hamid’s sons all took part in terrorist attacks in which innocent Israeli civilians were murdered.
Karake praised the Abu Hamid family as “a model of willpower and of the struggle for the independence of Palestine.” He was accompanied by other PA representatives and by representatives of PA “human rights” groups.
Karake also visited the family of Ayyat Al-Akhras, a suicide bomber who murdered two Israelis in a Jerusalem supermarket in 2002. Al-Hayat Al-Jadida referred to Al-Akhras as having “died a Martyrs’ death.”
(IsraelNationalNews.com)
If Israel wants to kill Fatah and Islamic Jihad, that’s fine with me. Didn’t Fatah orchestrate the Munich Massacre?
Well, you don’t want to spend $50,000 or $100,000 on a missile to kill a terrorist when the same job can be done with a rifle cartridge that costs in the tens of cents. I tend to think in terms of efficiency and economics.
The difference is that the Nazis had invaded Russia with the intention of enslaving or exterminating the Slavic Russians as Untermenschen. The partisans did not act as suicide bombers, they fought with a desire for self-preservation just like the French Resistance, the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, and the Poles who rose up against the Nazis. A lot of them died fighting the Nazis but they didn’t believe that Big Daddy in the Sky would give them 72 virgins for doing it. Only the Japanese, plus a mortally wounded U.S. pilot who knew he was going to die anyway (Captain Richard E. Fleming, awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously not for crashing into the Mogami but for the actions that got his plane hit in the first place) crashed their airplanes into enemy ships.
Israel did not invade anybody, it was invaded by terrorists and aggressors on the day of its creation.
A rational argument for forcible sterilization of certain individuals (based on the assumption, as implied from the story, that this individual encouraged her sons to become terrorists).
Ask yourself why you referenced something which occurred no less than 38 years ago.
It’s more urgent that most Israeli politicians be sterilized. There have been so many showcase examples until now of why this is true.
The difference is that the Nazis had invaded Russia STOP HERE!!! The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant.
We did in their eyes invade and it is partially true. According to you then and of course according to their world view and beliefs they are justified in both defending their lands and or recapturing them from the Jews they believe are Thieves. Every country in existence was built on the bones of others who preceded them. In most cases those who were defeated assimilated into the society and culture of the invading victors.
Here it is an impossibility. What is relevant is that they believe their own narrative i.e, that we stole their land. Think where Israel stood on June 13,1967 and where we stand today. Terror works from an empirical view of our relative positions and strengths. They have never compromised on a single issue or demand made since 48′, we have. Why should they do anything when we are capitulating and ceding land and power to them without they giving on a single issue important to them?
Terror as a weapon works for them and is therefore from their point of view legitimate and objectively, they are correct.
Your nutty Christian sense of right and wrong is not ours and certainly not mine. You talk the talk but it is Juvenal idealistic bullshit. This isn’t a Marvel Comic of good guys bad guys and the good guys can do no wrong. You are too much into fantasies and military history of others always written by the victors and all highly suspect and all probably should be read with a lot of grains of salt.
Re: #12
My understanding is that Israel never forced any Arab off his land. Zionists purchased land, and it was the Arabs who made it a capital crime to sell land to the Jews.
The Arabs who were “forced” off their land left because other Arabs told them they were coming to kill all the Jews, so they needed to get out of the way.
I would go further by saying that, even if the Arabs did have any rights at the beginning, they forfeited their rights when they started a war of annihilation in 1948 and reiterated that forfeiture by starting or provoking three more wars in the space of 25 years. The Arabs, like the common thieves they are, forced Jews from their homes and never compensated them; as far as I am concerned, those Jews’ property (in Arab countries) should be given to the Palestinians in exchange for any “rights” they have to the West Bank and Gaza. Maybe Germany has some historic “rights” to what is now part of Poland but I’d say that what Germany did in 1939 pretty much threw those rights down the sewer.
That was the incrementalist approach used by the gun control movement in the U.S. The Million Mom March demanded restrictive gun laws and had a no-debate policy; the issue was not subject to discussion. The Million Mom March was the problem, and I was personally the (final) solution to that problem; I destroyed the organization by exposing its misuse of tax exempt money. That took care of the incrementalism. Israel needs a similar solution to the Palestinian problem; expulsion of all Hamas members and sympathizers at gunpoint will work just fine, there is no need to exterminate them like the vermin they are. I will also post a link to an excerpt of “With Fire and Sword” that shows how a Renaissance-era voyevode (provincial governor, march-warden) would have dealt with the Palestinian problem.
The Torah tells us to exterminate Amalek, but only to evict the Canaanite nations—not kill them. G-d even promised to plant terror in their hearts so that they would flee from us.
In 1948, 480,000 Palestinian Arabs took off from their land and fled the country for no apparent reason, well some had a little push from the Jews. Then the stupid Jews begged them to stay and many did. So most fled on their own some were pushed to leave and others were convinced to stay.
This is what the enemy says; the nasty Jews pushed them out.
The truth is that the enemy told them to leave while he killed or expelled all the Jews, whereupon they could move back and take the Jews’ land. It didn’t work out that way, and that is why they are refugees. The Arabs are 100 percent at fault.
In your black and white world you would believe anything if the story comes from the side you support like Republicans vs Democrats Europeans against aborigines etc.
The truth is there are tens of Arab villages forcibly evacuated because they were either deemed essential or were a security problem like villages on the main roads between Tel Aviv and Haifa and Jerusalem to Tel Aviv Jaffa was taken by force by the Irgun and Lechi and most Arabs ran for their lives and rightly so. After Dir Yassin tens of thousands fled in fear that what happened at Dir Yassin would happen to them. The Jews fueled the rumors. The Davidka made a lot of noise but little or no damage. The Jews let the rumor that we had nukes and were using them.
Tel Aviv University and most of the kibbutzim are built on lands once occupied by Arabs.
That over a half million Arabs stayed put and nothing happened to them meant that most who fled were in different ways persuaded to leave, and not just because the Arab leaders told them so. It’s true but since when do the Arab masses do what the leaders they hate tell them?
THANK YOU Bill… Kahane was right! Look what G-d told us to do to Amalek. This IS Amalek.