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  • January 8, 2014

    Can the UN legally impose a solution on Israel’

    By Ted Belman (originally published Dec 8/10)

    A movement is afoot to get the UN to predetermine borders between Israel and the future 23rd Arab state and to recognize “East Jerusalem” as its capital. Such predetermination would be in violation of the Roadmap which calls for a negotiated solution where “negotiated” implies freedom to say “no”. And such predetermination would prejudge the outcome which the world never tires of telling Israel, no one can do.

    I began doing research on the powers of the UN and on whether such UN predetermination would be ultra-vires its Charter. In other words, would it be legal by international law for the UN to dictate a solution’. I wanted to know what the consequences might be for Israel. I have not yet gotten a good enough fix on these questions to give an opinion. Regardless of the true meaning of the Charter, I fear that the UN would give the same answer that the Queen gave to Alice in Wonderland, It means what I say it means.


    David Solway in The United Nations: Public Enemy Number One recommended that the US withdraw from the UN. He recites in a detailed way what is wrong with the UN and why it is the enemy of the US and freedom.

    But his polemic, left out reference to the overriding purpose of the UN.

    In 2001, John F McManus, the then president of the John Birch Society, gave a speech entitled The Plan to Have the UN Rule.
    He quotes from a State Department official in 1945

      “ there is no provision in the Charter itself that contemplates ending war. It is true the Charter provides for force to bring peace, but such use of force is itself war. The Charter is built to prepare for war, not to promote peace. The Charter is a war document, not a peace document.

      Not only does the Charter organization not prevent future wars, it makes it practically certain that we shall have future wars, and as to such wars it takes from us the power to declare them, to choose on which side we shall fight, to determine what forces and military equipment we shall use in the war, and to control and command our sons who do the fighting.”

    While the Charter pays lip service to national sovereignty by pledging to maintain “the sovereign equality of all its Members,” for no one would have joined otherwise, it is all about limiting such sovereignty.

    Thus joining negates sovereignty.

      “No one can understand the reasoning behind self-defeating policies of the United States government without an awareness of the enormously harmful influence of the Council on Foreign Relations.

      This organization has worked to destroy Americas national sovereignty and create a tyrannical world government ever since its inception in 1921. It members are the leaders in government, the mass media, the wealthy foundations, the military, religion, education, the corporate world, and other important segments of our nations life. They are betrayers from within, and their influence has spread to numerous other parts of the world.”

    That is also what the UN intends achieving.

      “The Charter’s main authors were Americans Alger Hiss and Leo Pasvolsky and the Soviet Unions Vyacheslav Molotov. Hiss was a secret communist and a member of the world-government-promoting Council on Foreign Relations. Pasvolsky was also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. And Molotov was an official of the murderous Soviet Union whose criminal leaders expected the United Nations to bring about a communist-controlled world.

      These men surely did not want the nations of the world to remain independent. Instead, they wanted all to become subject to the authority of the United Nations, an organization they expected to control. And they wrote the UN Charter to accomplish that goal.”

    A subsequent step along the way was the creation of the EU which overrides the sovereignty of its members. In fact it may have the illusion of itself being a democratic body with electorates all electing their representatives, in reality it is run by a permanent bureaucracy. In effect the Europeans have been disenfranchised by joining.

    The supporters of world government need world problems, real or imagined, to justify world solutions. While the planet may or may not be warming, and if warming, may or may not be man made, what is important is that a world solution is needed. Never mind whether the suggested solutions would work, they would certainly involve the enlargement and power of world government and that is the point.

    What is envisaged is a stateless world. The nineteenth century was the “age of nationalism”. Nationalism is blamed for most the wars which ensued. It is no longer a good thing. Political Zionism was born in that century. As nationalism went into disfavour in the twentieth century so did Zionism.

    Imperialism is usually associated with nation states and is also decried. In fact in many ways nationalism resisted the imperialism of others. The powers that be, such as CFR, see the doing away with nationalism as doing away with the resistance. In effect they want to substitute corporate imperialism for national imperialism.

    Islam has no trouble with a stateless world. In fact it seeks a world caliphate in which Islam is supreme. The Caliphate is important, not the state.

    When noticing how Islamification is aided and abetted by the US and EU governments against the wishes of their citizens, I am reminded of the alliance between the Rome and the Catholic Church in the fourth century AD. The Catholic Church as an agent of Rome, used to suppress the people in the name of God thereby removing popular resistance to Rome. With the fall of Rome, the Church went on to align itself with the ruling aristocracies and monarchies. During the age of colonialism, the Church was an active partner.

    Similarly Islam is a tool to harass and intimidate the people in the service of the rulers. “Allah” gave Mohammed the rallying cry and justification for conquering the world. Islam maintains itself by a brutal suppression of freedoms. The people are entirely disenfranchised. Thus Islam and World Government are comfortable bedmates and fellow travellers.

    Pres. Obama is totally supportive of the Caliphate and of the UN. He is working to empower them both. His policies include

      1. World nuclear disarmament
      2. Reduction of the US military and role as the world’s policeman to be replaced by an international force.
      3. Embracing the UN and even UNHRC.
      4. Whitewashing Islam

    Will the American people take Solway’s advice and “get the hell out”? Remains to be seen.

    So what does all this mean for little Israel. With few exceptions Israel has no friends among the nations. The US so far has been willing to to stand by Israel by using its veto in the Security Council or supporting her right to self defense in the Lebanon War and Gaza War. But that support comes with a price, namely that Israel capitulates to the Arabs and accepts their terms for peace.

    The last three Israel Prime Ministers, Sharon, Olmert and Netanyahu all came up through the ranks of Likud. All have accepted the inevitability of succumbing to American pressure and each tried to salvage what they could for Israel.

    Netanyahu, the current Prime Minister, was forced by Obama to institute a 10 month settlement freeze, after which according to Netanyahu, construction will fully commence. But nobody believes this. Nothing is being said as to what happens at the end of this period to the peace process.

    It is inconceivable that the world will give up its efforts to get Israel to withdraw to the greenline and share Jerusalem. Whether we are talking about the Roadmap, Annapolis or a future Conference in Moscow which is currently being talked about, the end result is clear.

    Obama has conceded the “Israeli goal of a Jewish state with secure and recognized borders that reflect subsequent developments and meet Israeli security requirements”. But these borders have been predetermined by Obama to be “based on the 1967 lines, with agreed swaps”. Slim pickings, indeed.

    Should Israel refuse such a deal, whether by the current government or by a revolt by the people, she will of course be saying, give us your best shot. This will include sanctions and expulsion from the UN.

    There is also the possibility of military intervention by the UN. McManas comments on this.

      Chapter VII of the Charter begins with Article 39 by proclaiming that,

      “..the Security Council shall determine the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of peace, or act of aggression and shall decide what measures shall be taken.”So the UN shall make the decision as to whether and when it shall act militarily. Then, in Article 42, the UN Security Council is authorized to –

      “.. take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and operations by land, sea, or air forces of Members of the United Nations.

      Thats no guarantee of peace, its a blueprint for war.

      Clearly, a nation that balks at being controlled by the UN will be deemed to be a threat to the UNs definition of peace. And the UN has authority under this section of its Charter to wage war to accomplish its idea of peace.

    Serbia learned that lesson.

    But before it comes to that, Israel would respond by talking the battle to the American people and to the US Congress, their extension. It is a battle that Obama prefers not to fight especially in the lead up to the 2012 elections.

  • Posted by Ted Belman @ 1:58 pm | 47 Comments »

    47 Comments to Can the UN legally impose a solution on Israel’

    1. Jew says:

      legal aspects are completely irrelevant – it’s all a question of power

      if you have power you can execute the law or also transgress it

      if you do not have the power you cannot do either of it

      look what they did in yougoslavia: germany recognised slovenia and croatia in an illegal manner (a european commission refused to recognise slovenia and croatia and germany was legally bounded by this decision), germany gave illegally weappons to croatia via hungary, and the nato bombed serbia without a unsc resolution. in light of these facts the above question sounds ridiculously irrelevant.

      ariel sharon said ten years ago that yougoslavia was a test for Israel, the west tried out in yougoslavia how to destroy Israel

      however, there is a slight difference between yougoslavia and Israel: we are the elected people and have a Divine Promess, while the serbs do not have

    2. What if Israel resigns from the UN and denies the UN’s right to exercise authority?

      What right do a bunch of Third World jungle apes (e.g. Libya, Syria, Iran, and the rest of the world’s bipedal sewage) have to tell a civilized nation what to do?

      What right do the Christ-killing Egyptians (Google on “Egyptian security forces” and “Coptic Christians” to see what I mean), the same s**tty excuse for a country that started four wars in the space of less than 25 years, have to tell any civilized nation what to do?

      Clearly, a nation that balks at being controlled by the UN will be deemed to be a threat to the UN’s definition of peace. And the UN has authority under this section of its Charter to wage war to accomplish its idea of peace.

      The UN does not have an army; it has only the military force that its members are willing to provide. It is unlikely that any civilized country will want to fight Israel, so the UN will have to wage its “war” with rabble from the Turd World–whose countries will then be legally at war with Israel. That means Israel can invade their countries, kill their leaders, and send Evangelicals to convert them to Christianity (Ann Coulter’s solution). As a matter of fact, it would entitle Israel to take out a good part of the world’s trash.

    3. Max says:

      Everyone has got it.The UN is a terrorist org anyway. A home away from home for world dictators.

      America should declare the Un building a legal bordello and have all the NYC hookers move in rent free – put it to some good use and it will still have the same function.

    4. rongrand says:

      What if Israel resigns from the UN and denies the UN’s right to exercise authority?

      Bill, the US should likewise resign from this despicable organization.

      Barry Goldwater once stated:


      One would think by listening to all the propaganda about the United Nations that they are some sort of benevolent, peaceful organization. Never in the history of the United Nations has it stood for anything but killing and violence. They have never kept peace anywhere on this globe. Their sole function is to replace the U.S. military – dissolve all four branches of our armed forces. Their allegiance is only to the United Nations Charter which does not recognize the U.S. Constitution. This body is made up almost exclusively of communists and leaders of the bloodiest regimes on this globe. Their history and operating agenda is apparent to anyone who takes the time to sincerely and with an open mind, research the facts of this organization, separating truth from myth. Bilderberger participants ( another group committed to one-world domination) in 1992 called for ‘conditioning the public to accept the idea of a U.N. army that could, by force, impose its will on the internal affairs of any nation.

      He was right.

      The UN is a worthless body and the US should not spend another nickle on it and insist they move the HQ’s to another country, Iceland for instance.

    5. Bedrock says:

      Rongrand:

      He was right.

      The UN is a worthless body and the US should not spend another nickle on it and insist they move the HQ’s to another country, Iceland for instance.

      Since the U.S. is the main funder, and the most important original establishing nation of the U.N, it is your taxes that is keeping it going. Why don’t you merely cease filing and paying federal income taxes.

      Then you would be talking (pardon the expression) turkey.

      Do a Wesley Snipes.

    6. dweller says:

      [Goldwater]: “Never in the history of the United Nations has it stood for anything but killing and violence. They have never kept peace anywhere on this globe. Their sole function is to replace the U.S. military…”

      In the immortal words of Obi-Wan Kenobi, “You’ll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

    7. dweller says:

      America should declare the UN building a legal bordello and have all the NYC hookers move in rent free – put it to some good use and it will still have the same function.

      I can see the advertising already: “Drop in at the end of your day at UNCLE NED’s Uptown Sportin’ House — where the customer always comes first….”

      Hoo-hah, bring it!

    8. Darryl says:

      The UN has become the center for historical revisionism and moral inversion. When black becomes white it is time for all true democracies to withdraw membership. It is time for a new world body composed of democratic countries to form their own organization.I would put forward Prime Minister Harper of Canada for his moral clarity, staunch defense of Israel and his willingness to take his lumps at the UN and anywhere else in the world to lead this charge. The sooner democratic countries start to push back and take their fate into their own hands, the safer the free world will be.

    9. called for ‘conditioning the public to accept the idea of a U.N. army that could, by force, impose its will on the internal affairs of any nation.

      Blue Helmets = “Shoot” targets in Hogan’s Alley simulations.

    10. BlandOatmeal says:

      The borders of the conterminous Palestinian Arab Caliphate should extend from South Ossetia to Kossovo, with Ankara as their capital.

    11. yamit82 says:

      I fear that the UN would give the same answer that the Queen gave to Alice in Wonderland, “It means what I say it means”.

      That about sums it up.

      Iron Curtains, Rhetoric & Reality

      Prof. Eugene Narrett

      “The United Nations Organization must immediately be equipped with an international armed force… a force for action, a true Temple of Peace.”

      “We are engaged in the process of creating a European unit in the world organization of the United Nations… one of several continental units, the pillars of the world instrument for maintaining security.”

      Read More

      1. The quotes are from Winston Churchill, the first from paragraph 10 of his speech, “The Sinews of Peace,” March 05, 1946 delivered at Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri, often termed the ‘iron curtain’ speech; the second quote from “the Council of Europe,” delivered at the Council in Strasbourg, August 17, 1949

    12. yamit82 says:

      Where is the UN?

      Prof. Eugene Narrett

      “Comprehensive Peace Agreement” is the modern Pax Romana as in, “they made a desert and called it peace,” or, “you need protection.” From whom? “From us” or is that, from USA? Notice: as the threat of attack from Persia and its Syrian satellite grows so does the American protective presence in what remains of the land of Israel. We assume readers know about the advanced American anti-missile batteries in Israel that do not share their intelligence readings with IDF staff unless the Americans deem it useful to dribble some leftovers to their vassal. How bitter that the Israeli vassal does more genuine service to its American masters than perhaps any other vassal state in history. There is a ‘good’ reason for this: by running the “Jewish State” as a subsidiary of the Quartet directorate, the subcontractors (perennial client regime, a.k.a. the undertakers) get to suppress the Jews. There are few things a modern or post-modern Hellenist loves more: it demonstrates the progress s/he has made from the superstition of a living culture into the great darkness of world-Hellenism and its Dionysian trappings and substrate.

      Read more

    13. Sternlight says:

      For sale: exclusive New York City east midtown condominium units with East River view and pedestrian gardens, Convenient restaurant, gift shop and business center adjacent. Gated community. Easy access to FDR Drive. Attractive pricing due to government seizure. Preference given to U.S. taxpayers. No dogs, cats, or Ambassadors.

    14. dweller says:

      “Barry Goldwater once stated: ‘One would think by listening to all the propaganda about the United Nations… etc.’… etc.”

      The remarks are sound but it turns out that they are not from Goldwater.

      For the record, they are actually the words of the late, legendary broadcaster, Paul Harvey (Sept. 24, 1993).

      (“And now you know the rest of the story. . . .”)

      “The UN is a worthless body and the US should not spend another nickle on it and insist they move the HQ’s to another country, Iceland for instance.”

      It would be hard to disagree with the sentiment generally, Ron (but what have you got against poor Iceland to consign THEM to such a fate?).

    15. Clinton says:

      Cut off all money to un then kick out
      the un from the United States.

    16. dweller says:

      “We assume readers know about the advanced American anti-missile batteries in Israel that do not share their intelligence readings with IDF staff unless the Americans deem it useful to dribble some leftovers to their vassal.”

      I would seriously doubt that readers know this

      – and it’s most disturbing.

    17. Yonatan says:

      We have our own advanced anti-missile batteries. We rely on them for data from their x-band radar, but we have other capabilities to detect incoming missiles absent that data.

    18. Bear Klein says:

      Only Security Council Resolutions are binding and the US will not allow anything more than a slap on the wrist (if even that) as they have veto power.

    19. bernard ross says:

      In effect they want to substitute corporate imperialism for national imperialism.

      international corporate imperialism allows the shareholders/directors, etc to manipulate national govs towards their own interests. hence the USA and EU shipping its jobs, production and capital to Asia and promoting it in the national interest. the shareholders are immune from the effects on the nation that they create. Also, the US & Eu consumption engines become the drivers of the growth of Asia and become the creators of the future Asian consumption engine from which the same corporate interests will benefit. At that point the US consumption engine will pale in comparison to the asian consumption engine and will no longer considered as important to the corporate interests.

      Islam has no trouble with a stateless world. In fact it seeks a world caliphate in which Islam is supreme. The Caliphate is important, not the state……. Similarly Islam is a tool to harass and intimidate the people in the service of the rulers. “Allah” gave Mohammed the rallying cry and justification for conquering the world. Islam maintains itself by a brutal suppression of freedoms.

      Islam is a most successful vehicle for the control of peoples. It is able to compel obedience through fatwa(clerical structure), religious police or militia(“secret police”) and supports the concept of the supreme authoritarian ruler. The Saudis have demonstrated a successful relationship of how the vehicle is used to raise armies in support of their ventures and to control their populations. the saudis have maintained a mind control cult that works. Their tools(jihadis) just need the money and will fight and do what they say anywhere. If one removes the religious hocus pocus and considers it a tool of control then the saudi model/structure must be of interest to those who seek control of populations. western interests have been using the Saudi/GCC political/jihadi network at least since the 1980′s in afghanistan. we have seen how this network has been recently used in various arab springs. It is useful to western interests to operate through saudi networks as it shields them from transparency and electorates. In fact a western gov can pretend to be anti terror and peaceful publicly while at the same time working with the saudi network. corporate interests cannot help to see the value of those networks and the efficacy of their methods of rule. Those interest may even consider that nations under such rule is conducive to their own personal longevity and wealth maintenance. The appearance of the western cultural aversion to Islam may not necessarily be an aversion to western elites. Lets face it, the Saudi princes play a role to their subjects but still whore, gambol and get drunk in London. Western elite interests might not have an aversion to the rule of Islam in their own countries as long as they are the “caliphs”

      When noticing how Islamification is aided and abetted by the US and EU governments against the wishes of their citizens, I am reminded of the alliance between the Rome and the Catholic Church in the fourth century AD. The Catholic Church as an agent of Rome, used to suppress the people in the name of God thereby removing popular resistance to Rome. With the fall of Rome, the Church went on to align itself with the ruling aristocracies and monarchies. During the age of colonialism, the Church was an active partner.

      Perhaps the saudi model of rule demonstrates a more successful model to follow for those seeking to maintain generational power and wealth. Perhaps their interest goes beyond using the Saudi network as a tool but reaches further to considering the same structure to solidify their own rule. enlightened one world gov does not facilitate maintaining generational power and wealth but world caliphate does as political vehicles. International corporatism supports generational wealth and as a byproduct generational power through wealth. As a footnote it should be realized that internet voting will allow the manipulation of voting results so that selections are always made in close races. Corporations such as Soros SCYTL can control the outcomes.
      However, we should have no fear if those in control want what’s best for the citizens :)

    20. yamit82 says:

      bernard ross Said:

      The Saudis have demonstrated a successful relationship of how the vehicle is used to raise armies in support of their ventures and to control their populations. the saudis have maintained a mind control cult that works.

      Is it American Policy to destroy Israel?

      In a word, “no”; it is not the policy of the groups that apply America’s power to destroy Israel as a mostly Jewish entity of some kind. Since the Madrid-Oslo conferences it is clear that Israel already has lost much of whatever sovereignty it possessed. But to address this question properly, even in brief, one must review the Middle Eastern policy of Britain’s ruling interests as described 1919-23. In those few years, British policy toward a Jewish State in Israel was set forth and has persisted via America, the EU, UN and ancillary jihadists. The policy sustains dialectical attrition in the area in which a truly Jewish State should be and it has both rational (if profound and callous selfishness can be termed “rational”) and obsessive aspects deeply rooted in Western culture. More…

      Shambhala
      In Tibetan Buddhist and Indian Hindu/Buddhist traditions, Shambhala (also spelled Shambala or Shamballa; Tibetan: ??????????; Wylie: bde ‘byung, pron. de-jung; Chinese: ???; pinyin: xi?ngb?l?) is a mythical kingdom hidden somewhere in Inner Asia. It is mentioned in various ancient texts, including the Kalachakra Tantra[2] and the ancient texts of the Zhang Zhung culture which predated Tibetan Buddhism in western Tibet. The Bön[3] scriptures speak of a closely related land called Olmolungring.

      Hindu texts such as Vishnu Purana mention Shambhala as the birth place of Kalki, the final incarnation of Vishnu who will usher in a new Golden Age (Satya Yuga).[4]

      Whatever its historical basis, Shambhala gradually came to be seen as a Buddhist Pure Land, a fabulous kingdom whose reality is visionary or spiritual as much as physical or geographic. It was in this form that the Shambhala myth reached the West, where it influenced non-Buddhist as well as Buddhist spiritual seekers — and, to some extent, popular culture in general.

    21. yamit82 says:

      @ bernard ross:

      Foot note from “Is it American Policy to destroy Israel?”

      7. President Roosevelt agreed with King Saud on this method of keeping the Jews out of the Promised Land. See document A/16 on the Crimea Conference in “the President’s Map Room Papers, Naval Aid’s files” at Yale University quoted at length in the Outpost, March 2005, 9; “the President wished to assure his majesty that he would do nothing to assist the Jews against the Arabs…” Indeed, the stance of America’s diplomatic establishment toward the Jews during the 1940s was brutally consistent with the above comments as documented at length by David S. Wyman, The Abandonment of the Jews: America and the Holocaust, 1941-5 (1984; 1998) and could be seen in the treatment of the thousand Jews shipped to Camp Oswego in December 1945 and subsequently. See also Aarons and Loftus on the Dulles brothers in The Secret War Against the Jews (1994), 21-364 and A. Sutton, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler (1976), 82, 153; both texts document the role of the Dulles’ firm, Sullivan & Cromwell.

      In her own style and for her own goals Bailey also demanded the internationalization of Jerusalem “which is not a Jewish city,” her words embodied in the Peel Commission plan of 1937, the UN partition of 1947, and the “Jewish land for fake peace – Road Map” plans of the past seventy years. There is no point helping such a person with a Hebrew-English dictionary, — “the word Jerusalem means, ‘a place of peace’” she claimed) for she was convinced it “is not a Jewish city” (hence the Temple Mount must be gutted and existing archaeological records buried in European museums or texts for specialists [9]; she could be a news anchor, op ed columnist, or tenured radical today.

    22. yamit82 says:

      Additional comment connected to my comment #20 blocked by spam filter.

    23. honeybee says:

      @ yamit82:

      What makes you so special,I am prettier then you and I was blocked twice.Sugar. Said with an extreme drawl.

    24. yamit82 says:

      honeybee Said:

      What makes you so special,I am prettier then you

      I hope so.. my photo attached…Here

    25. yamit82 says:

      honeybee Said:

      I send a photo [correct term]

      No Boobs? %^$*$#%!!!!!!

    26. honeybee says:

      yamit82 Said:

      No Boobs? %^$*$#%!!!!!!

      Sorry, Darin I don’t have a photo of you and TX together!!!!!

    27. honeybee says:

      @ Max:

      Max,Darlin you’re back and you havn’t torn my head off,,I feel neglected!!!!!

    28. honeybee says:

      @ dweller:

      Anyone who admires Goldwater is a pal of mine!!Sugar.

    29. honeybee says:

      Max Said:

      Everyone has got it.The UN is a terrorist org anyway. A home away from home for world dictators.
      America should declare the Un building a legal bordello and have all the NYC hookers move in rent free – put it to some good use and it will still have the same function.

      You and dweller would probaby be just as disapointed with your proposed use as you are with it’s present use!!!!!Sugar

    30. Bear Klein says:

      @ Max:
      Actually help the deficit. Charge rent and tax the earnings. Send the UN to Europe or better yet build up Antarctica.

    31. yamit82 says:

      honeybee Said:

      Anyone who admires Goldwater is a pal of mine!!Sugar.

      But Honey he was not a Texan!!!! Not all that bright either.

      [Goldwater]: “Never in the history of the United Nations has it stood for anything but killing and violence. They have never kept peace anywhere on this globe. Their sole function is to replace the U.S. military…”

      The UN was conceived by the Brits to be the public face of the World Security state known to others as “The NWO” The American military was envisioned to be their principle enforcers with some contributing aid from some others on a regional and rotating basis.

    32. honeybee says:

      yamit82 Said:

      But Honey he was not a Texan!!!! Not all that bright either.

      Been painting and missed your post so I did not repond immiately!!!!!! As for Barry we all can’t be perfect,but he was a Westener, Not brighter then whom? Anyhow all men can do is screw !!! things up!!! Back to Goldwater, have you ever seen his photos of Ariz or visited his Museaum of Indian art in Phoenix ? Malcom Ferlow painted a really great portait of him. He was handsome also,but most handsome men are not bright. Which make me think that Felix is drop dead good-looking!

    33. honeybee says:

      @ yamit82:
      Modified again Yamit82,I blame you for leading me astray!!!!!!!!!!Zev

    34. dove says:

      @ Jew:

      Shabbat Shalom!

    35. dove says:

      @ bernard ross:

      Shabbat Shalom!

    36. dove says:

      @ Yonatan:

      Shabbat Shalom!

    37. dove says:

      @ Sternlight:

      Shabbat Shalom!

    38. dove says:

      @ Bill Levinson:

      Shabbat Shalom!

    39. dweller says:

      @ honeybee:

      “Anyone who admires Goldwater is a pal of mine!”

      I’m no Goldwater admirer. He got a few things right

      — and more than a few, wrong.

      BTW, I was wrong about that quote in the old posting of mine you cited [above, #6, from Dec 2010]: That was ALSO from Paul Harvey. (The one from Obi-wan was correct though.)

    40. yamit82 says:

      honeybee Said:

      Modified again Yamit82,I blame you for leading me astray!!!!!!!!!!Zev

      Seem to have that kind of effect on some.

    41. honeybee says:

      @ yamit82:

      When I’m bad, I’m better

    42. dove says:

      @ honeybee:

      SOME Americans are VERY entertaining…

    43. dove says:

      @ honeybee:

      We know this is what you think of Canadians….at least we are able to laugh at ourselves

    44. bernard ross says:

      dove Said:

      @ bernard ross:
      Shabbat Shalom!

      thank you for your Shabbat greeting and the link to the inspirational prayer. sorry I missed it at the time.
      also, I found the Rick Mercer videos very funny.

    45. bernard ross says:

      yamit82 Said:

      Is it American Policy to destroy Israel?

      from your link:

      More precisely, the geopolitical, — diplomatic, intelligence, economic, military and ideological assault on the Jewish National Home proceeds in that small band demarked by the positions of Dove and Viscount Milner. Nothing has changed: the ambiguity and attrition are rooted as deeply in the West as its very life and there will be no peace until the self-proclaimed “Forces of Light” stand down in deference to the non-imperial desire to lead by example as set forth for Israel, “a nation that shall dwell apart” in the Books of Moses.

      There IS a war against the Jews that continues at this very moment and is still led by the europeans and their spawn!

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