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  • December 20, 2010

    Salon Publishes Call for Torture, Murder of Sarah Palin

    by Kristinn Taylor and Andrea Shea King

    Liberal online political magazine Salon.com published a letter to the editor Friday that called for the murder of 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

    The letter was written in response to a mocking article at Salon titled, Good Morning America’s painfully friendly interview with Sarah Palin by Alex Pareene.

    Pareene snarkily sums up the GMA interview:

    “The interview was basically split into a couple of distinct sections: How awesome is your family, how bad is Barack Obama, how awful are people who criticize you, and how awesome is America?”

    The first letter published in response to the article calls for Palin to be electrocuted by a cattle prod by convicted dog abuser Michael Vick: “Vick gets a pet to torture and we get rid of Palin. A win-win for everyone!”

    Michael Vick, the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, is a convicted felon who spent time in prison for dog fighting and animal cruelty.

    That letter has apparently sat in the pole position under the article in the Letters to the Editor section since it was posted “Friday, December 17, 2010 12:33 PM ET.”

    The Letters section for the GMA article lists 65 letters published over four pages. Each letter has a “flag” button to call attention to Salon editors about objectionable comments. It seems no one at Salon finds it objectionable for the site to publish an explicit call for murder.

    Salon’s Editor in Chief Joan Walsh is a regular on MSNBC and CNN. Will Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough or Wolf Blitzer attack Walsh for prominently publishing a call for the murder of Sarah Palin? Will Walsh do the right thing and publicly apologize to Palin and pull the letter?

    How soon will the Democratic Party front group Media Matters for America come along and slurp up this large chunk of vomit from Salon?

  • Posted by yamit82 @ 6:32 pm | 36 Comments »

    36 Comments to Salon Publishes Call for Torture, Murder of Sarah Palin

    1. SHmuel HaLevi says:

      I read this report with trepidation about the US as a whole. Plots to assesinate certain persons that are prominent and specially fit to displace corrosive social groups are not uncommon but this well beyond that.
      I hope the people understands how deep into the cesspool the un American cult has driven the Country. Simply terrible.

    2. Isaac says:

      Democracy, I’m very, very sad to say, is dead in the US. Perhaps, this group has already jumped onto the DhimmiBandwagon. They are so scared of wonderful Sarah Palin, that they do want to even see her alive. It seems like madness to me. Americans, however, are a great people and will not let that “city on a shinig hill” diminish it’s force. Let’s see if anyone in the Justice Dept will lay charges against this group and whether any Human Rights groups will pretend that this was all ‘just letting off steam’. As an aside, read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.

      This was NOT what happened………………… The real story involves 11 Muslim men, in Muslim attire who got on that flight and kept talking on the phone while it was taxiing. When told by the stewardess to turn-off the phone, one Muslim told her ‘Shut-up infidel dog’! It got very dangerous when all 11 Muslims started to get aggressive with the stewardesses….. However, as the story is long and does not have a happy ending, I’ll wait to see if everyone would like to read the whole thing. Obama’s work is now at play in the US.

    3. Jim Horn says:

      It is more than interesting how the left/progressives go nuts and start frothing at the mouth regarding Sara Palin. Only Islamist hatred of Jews surpasses these fits of insane rage directed at civilized people who are so highly regarded by so many.

    4. Isaac says:

      This “city on a shinig hill” should read “Shining city on a Hill”. Sorry for the error.

    5. AmericanEagle says:

      Shmuel HaLevi writes:
      I read this report with trepidation about the US as a whole.

      Shmuel, calm down. This is one putz in one left wing webzine. Please see my suggestion to Isaac below and ask all your friends to do the same. Let’s let Joan Walsh, Editor of Salon.com know what we think.

      Isaac writes:
      Democracy, I’m very, very sad to say, is dead in the US.

      Isaac, This is a freedom of speech issue, unless it is a threat on the President. Otherwise, it is only actionable if someone tries to do something

      Instead of pissing and moaning, please click on the following link and let Joan Walsh, the despicable Editor of Salon.com what you think.

      http://www.salon.com/help/feedback.html

    6. Mer says:

      This is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS and another example of why I dont agree with the American version of Free Speach.

    7. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      This is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS and another example of why I dont agree with the American version of Free Speach.

      Mer, I have two words for you: YORK UNIVERSITY. Or don’t you remember the anti-Semitism that routinely goes on there under the guise of Canadian free speech. This is the same university that Stephen Harper ran and hid under his desk from after his chest-thumping speech to a Jewish audience that he would confront anti-Semitism in Canada, “no matter what the cost” and all the Jews got uncontrollable orgasims about what a Jewish hero he was.

      Instead of taking the opportunity for a cheap shot at the US, why don’t you click on the link above and let Joan Walsh know what a horses rear end she really is. Editors have the ability to block such letters.

    8. Isaac says:

      American Eagle I am confused. How can calling for the assassination of Sarah Palin be considered freedom of speech? She did run for Vice-President or does that not count?

    9. Mer says:

      A.E. For someone who claims to be a strong supporter of Sarah Palin I AM STUNNED that you are not OUTRAGED by this. You seem more interested in taking things personally.

    10. Ilana says:

      I am sad and frightened for Sarah Palin and her family. We should keep them in our prayers. I’m reading her second book right now, America by Heart. I recommend it.

    11. AmericanEagle says:

      Isaac writes:
      I am confused. How can calling for the assassination of Sarah Palin be considered freedom of speech?

      Don’t be confused. The moron has not DONE anything, only anonymously “called for” something in the abstract. Freedom of speech is meant to protect such hideous and objectionable speech. Unobjectionable speech does not need any protection. She is no longer a candidate – just a private citizen.

      Mer writes:
      For someone who claims to be a strong supporter of Sarah Palin I AM STUNNED that you are not OUTRAGED by this. You seem more interested in taking things personally.

      Mer, you are confusing me with you. I don’t take anything a stranger says personally, certainly not on the internet. My motto is, “Don’t get mad, get even.” This is why I directed Israpundits to Joan Walsh, the bitch Editor of Salon.com, hoping irate Israpundits will flood her inbox with their outraged protests. Wise up. Please do so and tell your friends to do the same.

      Illana writes:
      I am sad and frightened for Sarah Palin and her family. We should keep them in our prayers.

      I share your concern and will join you in prayer for Sarah and her family. However, she has been a target of the far left and the pro-abortionists for quite sometime now and I believe that between her, her husband and her security detail, they will handle any incident where someone may actually try to harm her.
      I hope you went to the link and let Joan Walsh know how you felt for her publishing this garbage and keeping it up for so long. By the time I heard about it I haven’t been able to find the actual letter. And remember, those who threaten Sarah and demonize her are LIBERALS, the same folks that tell us they are caring and tolerant humanists. Nothing could be further from the truth. Liberal policies are what remain of Marxism/socialism. They have harmed far more people than have been helped which is why every major country that tried them has been running away from them as fast as they can.

    12. Mer says:

      Your wrong A.E. I have more important things to do than spend my time growing old with you. So go ahead. Get on the band wagon with your fellow Americans. How trite. Because she is not an actual candiddate. I dont need your war machines and I dont need your ghetto scenes.

    13. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      I have more important things to do than spend my time growing old with you.

      Thanks for making my point that it is you who takes things personally, for no apparent reason but some natural need to be irritated.

      You obviously did not understand a word I wrote in response to you in my comments shown in No. 11.

    14. Mer says:

      You have quite the ego dont ya A.E.? That line wasnt meant just for you specifically. Its a lyric from a song sung by Canadian Burton Cummings of the Guess Who. It was redone by American Lenny Kravitz. American Woman is the name of the song.

    15. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      You have quite the ego dont ya A.E.? That line wasnt meant just for you specifically. Its a lyric from a song sung by Canadian Burton Cummings of the Guess Who. It was redone by American Lenny Kravitz. American Woman is the name of the song.

      Your previous sentence was, “Your wrong A.E.” You were not singing any song. You were clearly addressing me. Wise up.

    16. Yonatan says:

      ** Sigh ** AE – someone calling for the assassination of someone else is not “free Speech”, unless that someone else has risen to a level of a true enemy (not political enemy) of the state. If this is where america is heading and you’re ok with this, you just put your other foot on the slippery slope.

    17. AmericanEagle says:

      Yonatan writes:
      ** Sigh ** AE – someone calling for the assassination of someone else is not “free Speech”, unless that someone else has risen to a level of a true enemy (not political enemy) of the state. If this is where america is heading and you’re ok with this, you just put your other foot on the slippery slope.

      ** Sigh **. I hope you clicked on the link and let the despicable Editor of Salon.com, Joan Walsh, know what you thought.

      This where America has been for 230 years. You just didn’t know it. If Palin was still a candidate it might have been different. Besides she would have had a security detail. She is just a regular citizen now. The letter was published in an open forum in a popular left wing blog. It is not a rumor. If there was a violation we would have heard about it by now.

      It is not an issue of whether I am OK with it or not. The issue is that hate speech is protected by the US Constitution. The most vile speech is protected. It is one of our most precious and fundamental rights. Unless the speech is offensive why does it need protection? Burning the US flag is considered free speech.

      We have a saying in America, “Your right to free speech ends only when it intersects with my skin or my property.” You can say anything about me you like, just don’t touch me or my property.

      There are very few exceptions. For example, when the words may cause harm to the public. The classic example is “Crying fire falsely in a crowded auditorium” would not be considered free speech. Directly threatening the President is another. When Bush was President there were movies published by left wingers showing the president being assassinated. This was not a violation. If there is a direct threat made against the President the FBI and SS will investigate.

      If there are any American attorneys on this forum I would like them to comment on this issue so that we get a better understanding of the exceptions.

    18. Yonatan says:

      If Palin was still a candidate it might have been different.

      Why? Do gov. representatives deserve greater protection than “ordinary” citizens? I don’t think calling for someone’s assassination is protected speech. Protected speech does not cover the sanctioning of murder of an ordinary citizen. I think you are wrong here.

    19. Shy Guy says:

      The disgusting and stupid letter doesn’t call for the public to murder Palin. It imagines a particular individual, Vick, carrying out some leftist’s fantasies.

      All in poor taste but perfectly legal according to the 1st Amendment.

      The arguments here are blown way out of proportion.

    20. yamit82 says:

      Shy Guy says:
      December 23, 2010 at 11:05 am (Edit)

      The disgusting and stupid letter doesn’t call for the public to murder Palin. It imagines a particular individual, Vick, carrying out some leftist’s fantasies.

      All in poor taste but perfectly legal according to the 1st Amendment. The arguments here are blown way out of proportion

      The objection was meant to criticize Salon for publishing it for any of the reasons you cite plus others I can imagine. They have editorial control.

      If anyone were to have written similar about a leftist icon they would have buried the letter.

    21. Shy Guy says:

      Maybe it’s just me. I don’t expect better than this from the likes of Salon, HuffPuff, etc.

    22. Mer says:

      Actually A.E. those lyrics were meant for ALL Americans who are JUST LIKE YOU. So of coarse that would INCLUDE you too.

    23. dan friedman says:

      Yes Virginia- let me tell you why Sarah Palin can never be elected President Of the U.S.A.

    24. steven shamrak says:

      Dan-You may laugh now, but in 2012 when Palin is elected president, we will see who gets the last laugh.

    25. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      Actually A.E. those lyrics were meant for ALL Americans who are JUST LIKE YOU. So of coarse that would INCLUDE you too.

      If this were true, you would have said so in the original comments, not after being called on it. Nice try though.

    26. AmericanEagle says:

      Dan Friedman writes:
      - let me tell you why Sarah Palin can never be elected President Of the U.S.A.

      I don’t know what Dan Friedman’s problem is that he feels the need to embarrass himself like this. In the actual episode from “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” she dropped the buck with her first shot after she was given a different gun. They later found the first gun’s sights were off which is why she had missed with it. She hasn’t missed many targets after going national as a conservative spokesperson.

    27. AmericanEagle says:

      Yonatan writes:
      Why? Do gov. representatives deserve greater protection than “ordinary” citizens? I don’t think calling for someone’s assassination is protected speech. Protected speech does not cover the sanctioning of murder of an ordinary citizen. I think you are wrong here.

      Everyone “deserves” protection. Public figures, however, are targets and thus provided with special bodyguards. You may not think simply calling for someone’s assassination is protected speech, but the fact is that it is. However, if someone made a direct threat it would be actionable under other laws against imminent assault or disturbing the peace.

    28. yamit82 says:

      You may not think simply calling for someone’s assassination is protected speech, but the fact is that it is.

      Try incitement: That which incites the mind, or moves to action; motive; incentive; impulse. Burke.

      The actus reus

      The inciter is one who reaches out and seeks to influence the mind of another to commit a crime,

      So merely making suggestions is not enough. There must be actual communication so that the other person has the opportunity to agree, but the actus reus is complete whether the incitement actually persuades another to commit an offence.

      The actus reus

      In R v Fitzmaurice (1983) 1 AER 189 it was held that the necessary element of persuasion was satisfied by a “suggestion, proposal or request [that] was accompanied by an implied promise of reward”. In Race Relations Board v Applin (1973) 1 QB 815 Lord Denning stated that a person may incite another to do an act by threatening or by pressure, as well as by persuasion. The incitement can take any form (words or deeds). It may be addressed to a particular person or group or to the public at large.

    29. yamit82 says:

      “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” she dropped the buck with her first shot after she was given a different gun.

      She murdered Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer

      Animal Lovers outnumber Hunters especially vicarious hunters.

      UNFORGIVABLE!

    30. AmericanEagle says:

      Yamit writes:
      Animal Lovers outnumber Hunters especially vicarious hunters.

      Is this the sissy who wants Israel to be strong and defeat the jihadists? What a joke!

    31. Mer says:

      A.E. If you want to single out yourself as being the only prick in America. Go right ahead but I think your wrong. I dont think the point of this post was to argue the technicalities of free speech or hate speech. Sometimes shooting off at the mouth has its consequences or at least it should. I just think America goes overboard protecting them. Example. A few years back Howard Stern’s radio show came to Montreal Canada with a large French population. His show lasted about 20 min in Montreal because all he did was go on and on about how he hated the French so his show was pulled. The Americans have a crass way of doing things.

    32. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      I dont think the poing of this post was to argue the technicalities of free speech or hate speech. Sometimes shooting off at the mouth has its consequences or at least it should. I just think America goes overboard protecting them. Example. A few years back Howard Stern’s radio show came to Montreal Canada with a large French population. His show lasted about 20 min in Montreal because all he did was go on and on about how he hated the French so his show was pulled. The Americans have a crass way of doing things.

      And who gets to decide that what someone said is real or offensive and should have “consequences”? We leave that to the free marketplace of ideas, “I disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it”. Unlike Canada we take our basic freedoms against government intervention seriously.

      Your example of shutting down Howard Stern’s offensive speech in Montreal, on top of the anti-Semitic behavior at York University into which Stephen Harper feared to tread after fooling several Canadian Jews so desperate for some attention that he would oppose anti-Semitic rhetoric, and the previous silencing of Ann Coulter’s invitation to speak at this peculiar university – before anyone even knew what she was going to say – shows that Canadians do not have the same respect for freedom of speech as we know it in the USA.

      How are you any different from the folks at York University – you would clearly shut down someone who offended you on some self-righteous grounds.

      We are allowed to “shoot off our mouths” without some busy-body or the government trying to shut us down because they think they can read our minds. As a Canadian Jew you should appalled at Canada’s capricious and arbitrary attitude towards this basic freedom instead of embarrassing yourself on this forum.

    33. Mer says:

      A.E. lol. You dont understand free enterprise very well do you? Suppose I had a radio show in the U.S. and all I did was go on and on about how I hated Americans? Or maybe I was more specific and singled out black Americans and the audience was in the Southern U.S. You dont think there would be flak? You dont think my listening audience would have my show pulled? Freedom of speech shouldnt mean that someone can say whatever they want and silence those who oppose? And what makes you think that I dont hold Canada accountable? I choose my own battles and I am not going to let some loud mouth American dictate which ones they will be.

    34. AmericanEagle says:

      Mer writes:
      Suppose I had a radio show in the U.S. and all I did was go on and on about how I hated Americans? Or maybe I was more specific and singled out black Americans and the audience was in the Southern U.S. You dont think there would be flak?

      Your ignorance and appreciation of how the free market works in a free society is truly breathtaking, and you don’t even know it.

      The “flak” would be that people would stop listening and your show would go out of business. No one could artificially “pull” it. It would not generate enough advertising revenues to survive, which is the measure of whether TV and radio programs live or die in the US. What you suggest has been tried already but with conservatives as the target and the programs could not survive because too few people watched.

      Freedom of speech shouldnt mean that someone can say whatever they want and silence those who oppose?

      Freedom of speech means that no one, including the government, can silence anyone unless they cross the line and endanger the public or in cases of imminent physical assault. In the case under reference Sarah Palin was not directly threatened or in any imminent danger.

      And what makes you think that I dont hold Canada accountable?

      Your comments make me think that you don’t. As far as I know, you have never condemned York University for their anti-Semitism or Stephen Harper for fooling gullible Canadian Jews.

    35. Mer says:

      Exactly A.E. The bottom line is that the show would meet its demise. The American way is not beneficial to Americans or the rest of the world. Canadas track record is a little better but needs to be improved. Israel needs to find a way to stop the constant interference with nations who do not practise what they preach. Did you hear about the suicide bomber in Pakistan? Why is that not front page news? It should be. These muslim suicide bombers are a menace to the whole world. I rather focus on exposing the culprits and work on reducing the risks than debating jargon with you. That IS just ONE of the things that I DO on a daily basis.

    36. AmericanEagle says:

      The bottom line is that the show would meet its demise.

      The real bottom line is that no individual, nor group of individuals, nor the government has any role to play in the consequences of speech they may all consider offensive.

      Mer writes:
      The American way is not beneficial to Americans or the rest of the world.

      You are absolutely correct. The millions clamoring to get into the US are all masochists.

      Canadas track record is a little better but needs to be improved.

      Absolutely true. Canada is a beacon of freedoms as we frequently see with the denial of freedom of “offensive” speech at a public Canadian York University, not to mention Canadian laws against what some government bureaucrat deems to be “hate speech” by interpreting people’s intentions.

      Did you hear about the suicide bomber in Pakistan? Why is that not front page news? It should be.

      So, it wasn’t front page news in Canada? Hmmmn! I guess Muslims killing Muslims is no longer news.

      I wonder what those Israpundits who say that all the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims are alike have to say. They don’t seem to have a clue what most Muslims are like because their frame of ignorance are the Arabs who are a minority among the Muslims worldwide.

      I rather focus on exposing the culprits and work on reducing the risks than debating jargon with you.

      I wasn’t discussing jargon. I was trying to explain to you what true freedom of speech means, with little luck.

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