Muslims Stone 19 Year Old Ukrainian Girl to Death
Should Ukraine Regulate the Practice of Islam?
by Bill Levinson
Beauty queen Katya Koren stoned to death by Muslims for being in pageant
- A would-be teen beauty queen was stoned to death after her participation in a Ukranian pageant reportedly infuriated local Muslim youths.
Katya Koren, 19, was targeted by three fellow teens who said her seventh-place finish in the beauty contest was a violation of Muslim laws, according to British newspaper reports.
This is a strong argument for the regulation of the practice of Islam in Ukraine or elsewhere. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to commit murder under color of religion. Even in the United States, a strong argument could be made that advocacy of replacement of the Constitution by Sharia law, violence, misogyny, and so on are no longer a religion but purely secular activities that can be banned or regulated, and certainly not deserving of 501(c)(3) tax exempt status.
We are coming to the point where we believe that the safety of the civilized world requires destruction and/or transformation of the Islamic religion primarily by means of persuasive psychological warfare techniques. Jack Chick actually has some outstanding leaflets that prove Mohammad created a phony religion, by promoting a pagan moon deity to the status of God, for his personal enrichment and aggrandizement. Mohammad created a violent death cult to encourage his deluded followers to murder and die for him. We must expand on and propagate this material.
We must therefore persuade Muslims (and others) of this by reasonable and rational arguments, while our governments must be prepared to deal violently with those that offer violence on a large scale (9/11) or small one (stoning somebody to death).
I read the article, Bill; and I was amazed to see that this actually happened. Pagan societies have a long tradition of over-punishing minor offenses, while ignoring serious ones. Just compare the Codes of Eshnunna and Hammurabi with Torah, and you will see this. Islam goes overboard in both cases, creating a reign of terror for those unfortunate enough to live in a Moslem-controlled country — or even, as the article shows, to live in an area of a non-Moslem country where some Moslems live.
The ironic part of this all, is that so many supposedly “liberated” people are supporting these Islamic extremes. Israel has its own problems with self-described “Israelis” who hate anything “Jewish” and want to give away part or all of their country to the Moslems. In America, it seems that the Obama supporters, who also tend to be haters of Israel, haters of Jesus and haters of all things American, and who consider themselves to be “free” of the “out-of-fashion barbarity” of Judeo-Christian values, are siding with the Moslems at every turn. This is spiritual pride and delusion on a massive scale.
I just did an interesting investigation on http://correlate.googlelabs.com/ . I compared the state-by-state distribution of people interested in JESUS vs. those interested in KRISHNA. The states more interested in Jesus corresponded almost exactly to the “red” states that voted for McCain, and the “Krishna” states corresponded nearly 100% with those that voted for Obama. That’s as convincing evidence as one ought to need, that this Islamocraziness is purely religious in nature, as is Obamania; it is a conflict between NeoHindu Paganism and the religion of the Bible; and the Moslems are on the side of the Pagans.
Sick.
The thread in which we were discussing Islam is closed. Here is further information on the making of the Quran.
Muslim tradition says the Quran was completed in 651 CE, which is not quite true. Grammar in classical Arabic was still under development in the late 700s and vowel pointing and punctuation was still being finalized in the 7th and 8th centuries. Muslims disagree among themselves when the book came together, and some Western scholars date it 100 years to 200 years later. There’s a possibility there is more than one version in ancient archives around the Middle East.
The Torah took over a thousand years to reach its final form, the New Testament took less than a thousand, so it’s hard to believe the Quran was finished in a couple decades. The hysterical Abu Bakr had a hand in writing the verses from Medina after Mohammed’s death. Since he had already edged Ali out of the line of succession, who knows what else he did…
So portraying Muslims as savages is the way to drum up support for Israel? There is a reason that story was published on the internet. That’s because its’s RARE. Maybe you should publish an article stating that, even though the Middle East has much more poverty than the United States, most Middle Eastern cities are much safer than Detroit, Washington D.C. or Chicago.
Not particularly arguing with you George, but what basis do you have for making the statement
that such barbaric and cruel practices are rare? We’ve had instances where they have been
practiced here in the U.S. Do you really have a handle of what goes on in all those remote areas
where the approximately billion and a half muslims live? Further, what has support for Israel have
to do with cruelty derived from directions contained in the qu’ran?
At face value, your statement is nonsense. Care to elaborate what “final form” means?
Re: #3 “So portraying Muslims as savages is the way to drum up support for Israel?”
These Musloid freaks do a good job of portraying THEMSELVES as savages because they ARE. (Musloid is a good new word from them to distinguish them from peaceful Muslims, such as the woman who was murdered. If we say “Muslim savages” then that is an attack on all Muslims but “Musloid” implies a freak, mutated, or other deranged version of Muslim.)
What do you mean, rare? It’s the Musloid way of life in those countries: primitive, savage, and violent. Honor killings of women are accepted by their Stone Age societies. In “Palestine,” the Musloids teach their children to blow themselves up.
I study Biblical criticism, which I don’t think appeals to posters here. One theory is that the book of Genesis/Exodus was written during the reign of King David, possibly by a princess of the court. This is Harold Bloom’s idea but no one knows for sure. But say it might be true. The author has to go back hundreds of years to write about Moses’ exodus from Egypt, about Abraham, the Patriarchs and Judges. Much of this had to be in the oral tradition because one cannot write before the invention of writing.
So don’t ask questions you don’t want to know.
Your Choice!! This Nation must decide to stand on GOD’S WORD or perish!! Consider:
1. Is there a God?
2. Did He mean what He said?
3. The God of the Koran is not the God of the Bible!!
4. Our God, The Trinity, does not share supremacy in the Universe with another supreme being.
5. God’s prophecy to Ishmael through Abraham 4300 years ago is made more violent through Islam
and Shariah Law of today as the prophecy continues.
6. The core belief of Islam is stated in their Koran: See Surah 9:5, Surah 5:51, Surah 5:33 and many
others. Islam is A LIE about God’s Truth.
7. The core belief of Islam is a doctrine of premeditated murder with malice of forethought.
8. Islam is a Terrorist Cult of Murderers.
9. There is a murder contract out on ALL non-believers who will not convert to Islam.
1o. Their God Allah is a myth created by a drug addict, pedophile and mass murderer named Mohammed
and the Koran is the accumulation of his neurotic nonsense.
11. YOU DECIDE!! :And, You shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!! GOD’ WORD IS TRUTH!!
If you don’t like questions, you can lump them.
As I said, nonsense.
Considering freedom of the press and freedom of expression don’t really exist in Muslim states I’m inclined to think that honor killings are probably more prevalent than what is being reported in the MSM — particularly in countries like Somalia or Pakistan.
Anybody who suggests that muslim mistreatment of women is rare is either mistreating women himself,
or has had his eyes closed to reality. I could almost guarantee that what we hear or read on this
subject is but the tip of the iceberg. The qu’ran preaches and tells those idiots what to believe and
what to do to people who are unbelievers, women who are raped, women who have sex outside of marriage, and in some
countries, women who allow themselves to be seen in public, attend schools, work, or drive cars. These
disgusting creatures who are trying to bring the world back into the 7th century need to be re-programmed,
or shot.
More christian crap.
A Series of Dramatic Archaeological Finds
The Los Lunas, NM Hebrew inscription
Seems that there is enough evidence to indicate that mankind was vastly more advanced in 1000 BC than in 1000 AD. The Los Lunas inscription is found in the ancient Paleo-Hebrew script that was used during the times of the kings of ancient Israel and Judah, which indicates that the inscription dates to that time. Solomon’s fleets were sailing the world, and they could sail directly from Israel to Los Lunas! The Los Lunas inscription preserves an account of the Ten Commandments so it had to be done at a time when far-flung Israelites were obedient to G-d’s laws. The only historical context where this fits the Bible is in Solomon’s time. Even the sailors were proclaiming G-d’s laws at that time. Those who try and deny the dating of this artifact to Solomon’s time (a time appropriate for the script) would be hard pressed to find any basis for convincing anyone that someone in the American Southwest in recent centuries could skillfully inscribe a lengthy inscription in a Hebrew script not used for approximately 2500 years.
Looks like you can take your bible criticism and file 13 it.
Which god might that be? Papa, Jr. or Casper the friendly ghost?
That’s not what “you know who” said: “Arbeit Mached Frei”.
Another muslim at heart.
JESUS vs. those interested in KRISHNA.This theory absolutely falls apart when you consider who Israel’s allies are. The Christian nations of Europe are increasingly anti Israeli and her nearest true ally is India the home of hundreds of millions of followers of Krishna.
India shares weapons technology, test sites and military intelligence and is subject to as many Terrorist attacks as Israel with many more deaths.Delhi is full of Israeli tourists, businessmen and Military advisers, who relish the freedom and safety Indian society affords and the complete lack of anti-semitism. The Mumbai terrorists killed the Jews from Habad house in Mumbai because they were Jews and friends of Israel.Between Israel and India its the only state safe for Jews.
Sadly many leftists and Obamaites are still enamored with Stalinist thinking understanding statist solutions as advents of socialism and do not see the need for defending freedom as well.Other leftists are libertarian seeing that Israel is more interested in freedom and individual rights than Islamic societies and warrants their support.
As a leftist the ideas of the kibbutz movement appealed to me as a youth and still do. I spent almost a year on a Kibbutz in the North of Israel living and working and thought the lifestyle wonderful and a solution for many peoples social and economic problems.Kibbutniks are a different type of leftist than the common State socialism of many leftists and are amongst the most devout citizens of the Jewish states.So the Defense of Israel and it’s right to exist is not a blue/red state divide but of those who stand for freedom when defense of Israel as a democratic society. When the question is put this way, most Americans will support Israel over Islam which is anti-American tradition at its heart.
Hi 82
If we say that early Biblical Hebrew was in use at 1000 BCE, what can we say about events that took place hundreds of years before? There may have been inscriptions on rocks, etc., written in Semitic languages. There are some inscriptions in the Sinai that combines Egyptian hyroglyphs that some scholars believe is the earliest evidence of Jewish writing. Like all cultures much Jewish information was saved and passed down by the oral tradition.
Ever wonder where the name Jehovah comes from? A scribe in Europe was translating from Hebrew Torah verses. in order to remind themselves not to say G-d’s name, the Jews’ writings used something like this: (only an example, maybe not accurate)
a o a
Y W H W
to remind them to say adonae rather than God’s Jewish name. The scribe pulled the vowels down into the consonants and made a new word. I’m not sure if Jehovah refers to G-d, Jesus or both.
This is the kind of things one learns in Biblical criticism. I recommend _How to Read the Bible_ by Kugel to get all the ins and outs of the Torah, which I find fasinating. I plan to read this book again. BTW, Mr. Kugel is a religious Jew. His scholarship seems not to interfere with his religion.
I was raised Lutheran Christian but I never believed the stories of Jesus. I thought he was too goody goody. In studying the Biblical criticism of the historical Jesus, I found a man who was truly great without having to be divine. So now I say I follow the sayings of Jesus but none of the Catholic Church philosophy, although I love Christmas and the Nativity story. I love the presents too.
Personally I don’t like Yeshua’s rainbow-hugging, suggestions to “return good for evil” and “turn the other cheek.” Anyone stupid enough to try and apply these suggestions to Nazis or Muslims or any totalitarian, genocidal, supremacist ideology will soon find themselves dead. Gandhi tried this kind of crap w/the Muslims in Pakistan and E. Pakistan and we’ve all seen how that’s turned out for the Hindus and Sikhs there.
Can you post even once without showing your absolute ignorance on every subject you comment on?
The Meshe Stele, quote:
Perhaps you’d be safer discussing how to boil water.
Ishy man. What are you trying to say? If it is agreed there was Jewish writing at 1000 BCE, what do younger writings have to do with it? I’ve been studying Biblical criticism for ten years or more. What have you studied other than watching your toenails grow? Your comments are often hostile and make no sense. I don’t like you.