Britain: Islam In, Christianity Out
A Christian worker in Britain has filed a lawsuit after losing her job when she exposed a campaign of systematic harassment by fundamentalist Muslims.
In a landmark legal case, Nohad Halawi, a former employee at London’s Heathrow Airport, is suing her former employer for unfair dismissal, claiming that Christian staff members, including her, were discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.
Halawi’s case is being supported by the Christian Legal Centre (CLC), an organization that provides legal support for Christians in the United Kingdom. CLC says the case raises important legal issues, and also questions over whether Muslims and Christians are treated differently by employers.
Halawi, who immigrated to Britain from Lebanon in 1977, told the London Telegraph “that she was told that she would go to Hell for her religion, that Jews were responsible for the September 11th terror attacks, and that a friend was reduced to tears having been bullied for wearing a cross.”
Halawi worked at the airport for 13 years as a saleswoman at World Duty Free, where she sold perfumes. Halawi was dismissed in July, following complaints by five Muslims that she was being “anti-Islamic.”
Halawi says her problems with the Muslims began after she defended a Christian friend who worked with her at the same store, and who was being harassed by the Muslims for wearing a necklace with a cross.
Matters got worse after Halawi described a Muslim staff member as an “allawhi,” or “man of God” in Arabic. Another worker, however, who overheard the remark, thought she said “Alawi,” his branch of Islam. The misunderstanding led to a heated argument, after which Hawali was suspended and then fired.
Halawi says she persistently complained to management that she was being subjected to personal religious abuse and harassment from Muslim staff, some of whom went so far as to mock her about “shitty Jesus,” according to the CLC. She says a group of “extremist” Muslims were the perpetrators, and that other employees are now worried that their jobs could be at risk if the Muslim group turns on them.
“One man brought in the Koran to work and insisted I read it and another brought in Islamic leaflets and handed them out to other employees,” Halawi told the London Telegraph. “They said that 9/11 served the Americans right and that they hated the West, but that they had come here because they want to convert people to Islam…This is supposed to be a Christian country, but the law seems to be on the side of the Muslims,” Halawi said.
Andrea Minichiello Williams, director of the CLC, said in a statement that Halawi’s case is the most serious she has pursued, and that “it raises huge issues.”
“First there is the level of Islamic fundamentalism prevalent at our main point of entry to the UK. Secondly, there are very real issues of religious discrimination, which it would appear those in authority are turning a blind eye to, using the current loopholes in employment law as an excuse,” Williams said.
The Halawi case comes amid concerns that Christianity is being marginalized in Britain at the same time that Islam is spreading rapidly and Muslims are becoming more assertive.
British MP David Simpson, for example, has warned that Christianity is seen to be fair game for criticism and abuse while Islam receives special protection in the United Kingdom.
During a debate in the House of Commons in May 2011 about the treatment of Christians around the world, Simpson said: “In the United Kingdom, the policy seems to be that people can do whatever they like against Christianity – criticize it or blaspheme the name of Christ – as long as they do not insult Islam.”
In London, the Harrow Council has provoked a storm of protest after announcing plans to offer Islamic halal-only menus in the borough’s 52 state primary schools. Parents are outraged that meat prepared according to Islamic Sharia law is being pushed on non-Muslim children. Meanwhile, most of the in-flight meals on British Airways could soon be halal. The airline also says Muslim staff may wear veils, but Christian employees may not wear crosses.
Across Britain, Muslim bus and taxi drivers are telling blind passengers that they cannot bring their “unclean” dogs on board. The problem of prohibiting guide dogs on religious grounds has become so widespread that the matter was recently raised in the House of Lords.
Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has criticized politically correct officials who remove carols and Nativity plays from Christmas celebrations in an effort to appease Muslims. He wrote: “The weary annual attempts by right-thinking people in Britain to ban or discourage Nativity plays or public carol-singing out of sensitivity to the supposed tender consciences of other religions fail to notice that most people of other religions and cultures both love the story and respect the message.”
The politically correct enhancement of Islam at the expense of Christianity in Britain has been institutionalized by the 2006 Racial and Religious Hatred Act, which was enacted by the British government in an effort to ease religious tensions in the country amid a rapidly growing Muslim population. (Britain now has an estimated 2.5 million Muslims, giving it the third-largest Muslim population in Europe, after German and France.)
The new law makes it a crime intentionally to stir up religious hatred against people on religious grounds, and has led to zealousness bordering on the absurd.
In Nottingham, for example, the Greenwood Primary School cancelled a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. In Scarborough, the Yorkshire Coast College removed the words Christmas and Easter from their calendar not to offend Muslims. In Scotland, the Tayside Police Department apologized for featuring a German shepherd puppy as part of a campaign to publicize its new non-emergency telephone number. The postcards are potentially offensive to the city’s 3,000-strong Muslim community: Islamic legal tradition says that dogs are impure.
In Glasgow, a Christian radio show host was fired after a debate between a Muslim and a Christian on whether Jesus is “the way, the truth and the life.” In Birmingham, two Christians were told by police “you cannot preach here, this is a Muslim area.” In Cheshire, two students at the Alsager High School were punished by their teacher for refusing to pray to Allah as part of their religious education class. Also in Cheshire, a 14-year-old Roman Catholic girl who attends Ellesmere Port Catholic High School was branded a truant by teachers for refusing to dress like a Muslim and visit a mosque.
In Liverpool, a Christian couple were forced to sell their hotel after a female Muslim guest accused them of insulting her during a debate about Islam. In London, Rory Bremner, a political comedian, said that every time he writes a sketch about Islam, he fears that he is signing his own death warrant. At the same time, Scotland Yard says that Muslims who launch a shoe at another person are not committing a crime because the practice is Islamic symbolism.
In Kent, police have been banned from asking for a person’s “Christian” name, as this request might offend Muslims. The Kent Police Department’s 62-page ‘Faith and Culture Resource’ guide tells officers to use “personal and family name” instead of “Christian” name. In East London, all elected members of Tower Hamlets town council were told not to eat during daylight hours in town hall meetings during the Muslim month of Ramadan. Special arrangements were also made to disrupt council meetings to allow for Muslim prayer. Meanwhile, the council renamed a staff Christmas party as a “festive meal.”
Elsewhere in Britain, a foster mother has been struck off the social services register for allowing a Muslim girl in her care to convert to Christianity. Officials insist the woman, who has who has looked after more than 80 children in the past ten years, failed in her duty to preserve the girl’s religion and should have tried to stop the baptism. They ruled that the girl, now 17, should stay away from church for six months.
In some British prisons, radical Muslim gangs are imposing Sharia law on non-Muslim inmates, who have been forced to stop playing Western music, take down pictures of women from their cells and stop eating sausage. The gangs are also targeting non-Muslim inmates for forced conversions to Islam.
In Leeds, more than 200 Muslim inmates at a high security prison are set to launch a multi-million pound claim for compensation after they were offered ham sandwiches during the month of Ramadan. They say their human rights were breached when they were offered the meat, which is forbidden by Islam. At the same time, Muslim sex offenders in British prisons are asking to be exempt from a prison treatment program because the idea that “criminals should not have to talk about their offenses” is a “legitimate Islamic position.”
In West Yorkshire, an electrician working for a housing association in Wakefield was told he would be fired for placing a small palm cross on the dashboard of his van. His employer said the cross could be offensive to Muslims: “Wakefield and District Housing has a stance of neutrality. We now have different faiths, new emerging cultures. We have to be respectful of all views and beliefs.”
In London, the BBC in September dropped the terms BC (Before Christ) and AD (which translates from Latin to ‘the year of our Lord’) and replaced them with the “religiously-neutral” BCE and CE. In BBC justified the move this way: “As the BBC is committed to impartiality it is appropriate that we use terms that do not offend or alienate non-Christians.”
Anglican Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali, who resigned as the Bishop of Rochester amid death threats from Muslim extremists in Britain, says the BBC’s move “amounts to the dumbing down of the Christian basis of our culture, language and history.”
Soeren Kern is Senior Fellow for Transatlantic Relations at the Madrid-based Grupo de Estudios Estratégicos / Strategic Studies Group. Follow him on Facebook.
Stupid English! I love to watch them disintegrating.
MUSLIMS WHO PERPETRATED VICIOUS HATE CRIME GET OFF BECAUSE THEY’RE MUSLIM……
http://www.mrctv.org/videos/muslims-let-vicious-hate-crime-against-white-girl-because-they-are-muslim
I sometimes wonder if whats happening in the UK now is divine Judgment because of their complete perfidy towards the Jews during the mandate.
That was my first impression as well. What year did Britain turn against Israel? I was looking for a date. After the Arab riots of 1936-39? It appears that the Decline of the British Empire is directly related to the Brits going against Israel.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Stand for Israel – Israel History
British Empire: Twentieth Century Timeline
Not an easy question. Even from the get-go, there was always a significant UK element that deliberately sought to sabotage the Mandate and its obligations to the Jews.
In the early years of the Mandate (and during the military administration which preceded it, from 1917-20), it was typically the British Palestine Administration in Jerusalem that tried to nullify Balfour’s pledge, while Whitehall itself, for the most part, tried to keep its word.
As the years wore on, however, the balance turned, and by 1939 — the MacDonald [Chamberlain] White Paper — whereby HMG, dissatisfied that earlier governmental backtrackings, renegings, dilutions and betrayals of the Declaration and the Mandate might have left any vestigial ambiguity regarding the Crown’s intentions as Palestine Mandatory, now made bold to remove all doubt in the matter:
“His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate…” [Palestine: A Statement of Policy, Command Paper 6019 (London, Issued 17 May 1939)]
. . . .notwithstanding, of course, that — unlike the Jews, who are referenced with precision numerous times throughout the text of the Mandate Charter — neither “the Arabs” nor any other, specific, non-Jewish ethnicity or nationality is ever so much as mentioned (not one single time) by name in either the Preamble or any of the document’s twenty-eight articles.
The White Paper made Jewish immigration to Palestine — from Europe or anywhere else — essentially subject to an Arab veto
— and thus, to an Axis one as well.
For the Jews of Europe, it was a Death Warrant.
dweller: You are up early this morning. Early enough to be a stockbroker.
It was and is not part of Catholic policy either. His Majesty was head of the world’s Freemasons. Masonry is against Jews and Christians. Thanks for the info. Very interesting.
Ps 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
And the LORD destroyed the British Empire just as he promised. Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Actually I was up late.
During finals week[s] the university library stays open round the clock, so I gorge myself.
Guess so — though, as I’ve told you, I’m retired. (Still, I’d much rather be working. This “fixed-income” rot really doesn’t pay the bills — let alone, the debts).
I guess America’s founding fathers didn’t know that
— since most of them were both Masons AND (professing) Christians.
My own “founding father,” of Blessed Memory, was a Mason as well (32nd Degree), BTW
— though I think he must’ve been playing hookey on the day when they were suppposed to tell him he was ‘worshipping Lucifer’ (probably had a date with my Mom), because he seemed not to know that whenever I talked with him about his relationship with Freemasonry. On the other hand, maybe it was a deep, dark secret that I wasn’t supposed to know, probing fellow that I am.
An empire is merely a form of government and a configuration of peoples.
The peoples remain, albeit differently associated with (or without) one another, and differently governed.
dweller:
Actually there is. That is why they call them secret societies. I’ve given you the links to Prof. Walter Veith’s lectures several times. He is an extremely probing fellow and as far as I can tell speaks many languages which enriches his study. His father was Catholic and his uncle was a Freemason. His life story is here. When the uncle died his Masonic books were to go back to the lodge but Prof. Veith, a student at heart, nabbed them and actually read them, as opposed to those who just put books on shelves and don’t read them. There he found the source material for many of his lectures showing the intentions of the highest level Freemasons. Are you limited on bandwidth at the Library?
When a nation falls away from the truth, as Britain and the U.S. have to one degree or another, G-d allows evil leaders to rise up. 1 Sam 8:7 ff. The U.S. had its secret societies from the beginning and their intent has always been as is happening now. Had the U.S. stood for righteousness instead of looking like it does now where anything goes, then the outcome could have been different. Long before men tried to build the Tower of Babel but G-d came down and confused the languages. Thereafter, G-d haters who wanted a world empire developed a language of occult symbols and images that went over all languages. The MOST popular definition of Freemasonry states that it is “a unique system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols”. The New World Order is the new Tower of Babel, even their headquarters is designed like it.
dweller wrote:
You should know that Masonry has a spiritual element and causes generational curses. Some men have had to have deliverance in order to get free of Masonry.
I was pulling your leg, Teshuvah. Seriously doubt that my Dad’s masonic life encapsulated any secrets for him.
Don’t know. In any case, however — as a courtesy to other people in the place — I never pursue links to videos which depend on SOUND for understanding them. If a video has sufficient subtitling to follow it throughout, then I’ll stay with it; but only then. It’s somewhat limiting, granted, but everything we do involves choices. Something’s always lost, and gained.
“Britain” is SEVERAL nations: Scots, Welch, English, Ulster Irish.
So is every religion, and several philosophical systems to boot.
Not that Dad related to much of Masonry’s philosophical outlook either. For him it was essentially an association of professionals & business types. The only philosophical aspect of it he ever alluded to was its counsel to “live within your means” and “treat your neighbors & associates honorably.”
“Curses” imposed by whom?
dweller:
They are cursed by the things they state in their vows. The “whom” would relate to brothers but more to the occult spirits empowering the brothers associated with the pentagram (Five Pointed Star) on the floors of their lodges.
In lodges they use for different purposes the Bible, the Koran, the Book of the Law and the Hindu Scriptures, but Masonic writings say that the god they worship above the Great Architect of the Universe is Allah. Why do you think the Shriner’s have all those Arabic symbols?
Identify the SOURCE and SUBSTANCE of these “occult spirits.”
— to do, or not do, WHAT?
Yup, my Dad was indeed a Shriner. Got him good tickets whenever the circus came to town (the annual fundraising event for their Children’s Hospitals, etc)
ROTFLMAO.
I thought you said that at Degree 30 they got the news that they were ‘worshipping’ LUCIFER.
So Allah — who is presumably, like everything else in the Universe, the creation of the Great Architect — gives orders to [H]is Creator?
(And the Creator takes them?)
And serious, responsible men take blood-curdling, freakish, gruesome oaths to cooperate with this… uh… ‘worship’?
Too funny.
To a Westerner they are exotic to the ear, and eye; it’s just that simple.
Even as early as the Enlightenment, Teshuvah, when Voltaire et al. wrote ‘favorably’ about Islam, it wasn’t out of any familiarity with the Muslim Religion, but rather, quite precisely because of their disenchantment with what passed for the Christianity they WERE familiar with.
dweller: A long time ago I worked with a man with odd mix of history. His father was a Mason and his wife a Christian…or at least he went to church with her. He was an attorney and busy. When 9/11 occurred, he stopped being double minded and decided what he believed. He decided to be a Muslim and that Allah was god. …. Hmmm. I wonder where he got that idea? Perhaps from the Masonic line in his family. He had not a whit of the Ruach HaKodesh.
I don’t think there is anything I could write that you would not laugh at or mock. You say you are a Jew. Your friends on the board say you are a Christian. I would say neither. Perhaps like King Nebuchadnezzar, you are Secular Humanist with no revelation of G-d whatsoever.
Or from the fact that it was new & untried, and he was sick-&-tired of what he had tried (or THOUGHT he was sick-&-tired of it). Yes, he knew some symbols of Islam, imparted by those who were steeped in the lore & legend of masonry. But I seriously doubt he knew anything about Islam.
It was different, exotic, etc. Same reason why some guys marry (or carry on with) shiksas.
You could tell, could you? — what were the signs?
It comes as no surprise to me that I frustrate you. That would put you in some very good company, Milady. (Several posters on this site, I venture to say, just for starters.)
I put a premium on the sure-footedness of the hind on a mountain track, Teshuvah. He leaps over rock & crag, never missing his footing.
I do my own thinking. It’s not an activity I “outsource” to anyone, or any outfit.
Consider it my way of “testing every spirit.”
All the facts would agree with that assertion.
My “friends on the board” are a certain kind of paint-by-the-numbers Jew. For them, anybody who regards haNitzri as Moshiakh must be ‘Christian’ — because their perspective implicitly requires them to define Jewish NOT as (among other things) “Something,” but rather as “not Something else.” For them if you “believe in Jesus” — regardless of what you believe about him, including the proposition that he was (always was) Jewish — then, by definition, you cannot possibly be Jewish.
It’s complicated for them — because usually if somebody believes Yeshu is Moshiakh, he ALSO believes the latter is ‘God.’
But I’ve never bought that. I imagine they’d PREFER that I did; it would make me so much easier to dismiss. But I can’t help what I believe.
Nor should I — as I was LED to believe it.
Of course, my disbelieving in the ‘Divinity’ of the Christ assures that self-professed “Christians” cannot possibly regard me as one of them either.
But then, for them also it’s complicated: as I have no problem with haNitzri as Messiah, no problem with a Virgin Birth, nor any problem with a literal, physical Resurrection of a man who was in fact dead. (An ‘Incarnation’ or a ‘Trinity’ cuts no ice with me, but Virgin Birth, Resurrection & Moshiakh I find quite sensible.)
Again, a lot of “Christians” would, I daresay, PREFER that I ‘disbelieved’ in Jesus as Moshiakh, a physical Resurrection & the Virgin Birth — because, once again, it would make me so much easier to dismiss. (“Just another Jew; what would you expect of them?”) But — yet again — can’t help what I believe.
Nor should I — as I was LED to believe it.
Never did acquire a taste for grass. Though I’ve raised cats that did. (Every so often they’d go for it, for its calcium content apparently). And my zayde, my grandfather, was rather fond of schav , Russian grass soup (actually made from sorrel). But for myself, nah, no grass.
I am what would have once been given the honorable, if weird, designation of a Mystic.
It’s hard to use that word after the late 1960′s — when it became associated with introverted eastern philosophies, New Age claptrap, or anything spiritually “different.” So one always risks being misunderstood in using it, and I don’t throw it around very much.
The classic usage of the term, however, refers to an outlook which holds that knowledge of the Divine is not obtained — by ANYBODY, ever — thru “study” or indeed thru any activity that relies exclusively, or primarily, on the intellect: because that aforesaid knowledge is a received thing, and “revelation of God” must be apprehended via the intuition in the eternal Present Tense. Intellect is most useful in communicating with man, but, unlike the intuition, it is not a Receiving Station — while God is (always) “Sending.”
To state the matter bluntly, it is only in the moment, and thru the faculty of the intuition — and no other — that haRuakh haKodesh, the Holy Spirit, communicates with man.
dweller: Regarding whom Masons worship, please note these quotes from the highest of Freemasons leaders:
For more evidence of luciferian doctrine in Masonry visit this web page
dweller, it looks like your father kept it a secret from you.
There is an obvious anti-Christian bias all over the world, not just in Britain. For someone who has read and believes the New Testament, this should not strike one as strange. Many Christians in Europe have been lulled into complacency by their religion having achieved official status. For those who believe the Book of Revelation, the official, or Catholic, church is “Babylon, Mother of Harlots”, and the C of E and other official bodies are her daughters. Babylon rode on the back of the seven-headed, ten-horned beast, which is represented in our day as the chief secular rulers of the modern world. Rev. says that those rulers will hate the woman, and turn on her. This is happening today.
There is another woman in Revelation, not a harlot, who gives birth to a man child. This is the true Israel. She has a place prepared for her in the WILDERNESS, not in Parliament and other high places. The true Israel lives in that wilderness, hated by the world but protected by God. Let each Christian choose which woman he wants to be part of.
As for the Jews, they’re on their own trip. They needn’t be concerned with any of this.
Lions and tigers and dragons – oh my!
very well put.
Back.
Further back.
Just a little bit more.
Yes Shy. Anyone who has not seen it, needs to watch “a history of Britain” by Simon Schama. What happened under Edward I and Richard I is very painful viewing to someone who was brought up a proud child of the empire.
Hah! I was looking for this and found my very own post from 2005:
Aristocratic anti-Semites at Hampton Court, by Yehudah Avner
Shy: As I have said before we are watching the Total Onslaught series by Prof. Walter Veith, a Seventh Day Adventist lecturing to Christians. There is a long section on the church buildings of the Church of England, including the Westminister Cathedral, and their occult origins showing the images they share with Muslims and Freemasons and point to who they truly worship, Lucifer. The direction of the buildings even point to the Sun. Whatever rift the Catholics and Anglicans had over the truth in the Middle Ages, they have patched up their differences and are all Catholics now. Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, is a Druid as was Winston Churchill.
FIFY. Just look at his bulbous head!
BTW, Williams is in the news again. First class dufus.
Shy Guy: Williams is not a Christian, even if he says so. He is a globalist and part of the Beast System (RCC/Freemasonry/Illuminati).
1. From a Jewish standpoint, we lump you all together, no matter what flavor of the week you come in. We don’t care if one of you thinks the other is going to heaven or hell. Believe in the Pagan dead Jew mangod? POOF – a christian you are in Judaism’s eyes. Finally, something simple in life. I won’t let you take it away from us.
2. Your tin foil mad hattery conspiracy paranoid-ism is no more convincing today than it was yesterday or last year.
Shy: Read Bland’s post at #2 above and see if you can understand it. Williams is of the Harlot. Those who support Israel are not. It is important to know who your friends are and who your enemies are. Not being able to tell the difference is really not very bright.
I already read it earlier today and I understand it better than you know.
I really have no interest in discussing things in fairy tale vocabulary.
I’m already quite familiar with Williams’ “attitude” toward Israel.
I am quite familiar with whom our friends and enemies are, as well as those in between, who come in dozens of shades of gray, with and without ulterior motives.
Shy:
Do you want Christians to consider Jews and Muslims as the same, just as you consider Catholics and Protestants the same?
See if you can answer this very tough multiple choice question:
Both Catholicism and Protestantism are considered denominations of which faith?
1. Judaism
2. Hinduism
3. Voodoo
4. Baha’i
5. Christianity
6. Islam
7. Shintoism
8. Communism
Go on. Give it your best shot.
Shy Guy: Your question is phony because it forces a conclusion that you want but which is not correct. Only Protestantism is Christianity and was at its origin a sect of Judaism. Catholicism is based on Pagan sun god worship (worship of Baal and Mithra and the female goddesses, Isis, et al.) Catholics started Communism/Marxism, and Islam. Hinduism and Shintoism are also sun god worship. I’m not sure about Voodoo and Baha’i, the religion of anything goes and ecumenical blather. You didn’t mention Buddhism but you should include it because a Buddha has little swastikas on the bottom of his feet which represents sun god worship. The heads of most religions bow to the Pope. I’ve seen them do it on video.
Have it your way.
Shy:
That is a fascinating and well written article. I hate that snobbish classism and I’m not a royalist at all. People who are up should look down and see that they are standing on level ground. King Nebuchadnezzar had that mindset and ended up eating grass for 7 years.
Because G-d called you to be a light to the nations, He placed an invisible spiritual light on your forehead and when the heathen, even if they inhabit Hampton Court, see that light their demons react and produce antisemitism. It was necessary to preserve you as a nation to uphold His word.
Obama needs to take note of the example in the UK above, however, he would probably cheer Allah when it happens and do things to speed its happening.
Thank you for the links, Shy.
I don’t expect it because most normal people understand that there is an extreme delineation between Judaism and Islam, just as they understand such a delineation between christianity and Islam, even though Islam recognizes “Issa” as a prophet.
Try again.
There is as big a difference between Catholicism and Protestantism as there is between Judaism and Islam. You are just being stubborn.
There is a flip side to the coin Shy. In “a history of Britain” there is an episode where Schama deals with the puritans. He calls them the Christian Taliban. He does a brilliant bio on Oliver Cromwell their leader. At the end of the episode, he is seated in a Synagogue wearing a yamulke. He says: is there anything positive to say about Cromwell and the puritans? He says most historians would say no. But Cromwell is the beginning of my history, he re-allowed the Jews into England for religious reasons and commercial reasons. And this time they were fully protected by the state.
The christians in Britain are being now paid by G-D for their behaving to the Jewish right in Israel. They prevent Jewish refugees running away from the holocaust to enter their country and by that they cause their extermination by the Germen. It seems to be that the muslins shortly will begin to mascara all the christians. I will suggest Britain to find the way to compensate the Jewish nation be contribute contribution to take out the Arab population that they brought to Israel with the intention to prevent the establishment of a Jewish stat and on the other hand to contribute to Jewish women to encourage them to bring more children in order to rebuild the Jewish nation as it should have been unless the British murdering behavior
The same persecution of Christians is present in America. Lenore Zimmerman, 85, is one of three elderly fliers who had bad experiences with TSA screeners on a flight from NY to FL. Linda Kallish,66, and Ruth Sherman, 88 were also molested. Lenore said she doesn’t know why they picked her. Well, probably because she was either Jewish or Christian. Photos. They certainly don’t look like terrorists to me.
Yeh. The idiots in the TSA publish training manuals which tell their dummy employees to explicitly target christians.
/sarc
Who is not the “bright” one here?
…and Jews. Yes, they probably do.
You need help.
And meds.
they are doing all this in the name of talorance will they are going to find out the barbraic muslims going to take them over
They already have.
This whole thing is so significant of the LAST DAYS. Christians are being persecuted all over, and it will get much worse. We are aghast over what is happening in England, but it really is no surprise when the Muslims have said they plan to take over….this is coming to America as well. Keep looking up, our redemption draws nigh….
Blame all those Royal family who kiss Muslim asses, bring them to Britain, where Muslims are justified to destroy and fool Western Civilization, and Christian world, for the sake of “wealthy, oily, Muslim Sheikhs”!!
Welcome to the islamic republic of Britain.
When Muslim Turks slaughtering, raping, killing, burning, entire Armenian nation of Ottoman Turkey, where first Genocide of Century completed in the hands of Muslim Turks in 1915, way before Jewish Holocaust, The West, especially UK, completely ignored the genocide of a Christian nation, and now, after these many years Britain learning about the evil of Islam and Allah’s culture right in front of their own nose!!
You miss the forest for the trees.
Can you honestly not see that Pike (and all the rest of them) was simply reacting to the mindless, rote, conformist, and yes, slavishly superstitious acceptance of Conventional Christianity that you likewise rejected in your own way?
Did he choose questionable terminology? — Of course. But that is merely a measure of his revulsion at the hypocrisy and cant he was rejecting.
The most overpowering reason for the Commandment against “taking the Name of the Lord, thy God, in vain” is that doing so tempts the non-Believer (or ex-Believer) to reject God as cruel or evil or irrational or sanctimonious or any of the other qualities that invariably show up in the 24-caret fakes who hide behind Religion:
“Well, if that’s what God is like — then screw it & screw Him — what’s the other Guy, the one with the horns, got to say?”
So they reverse all the imagery & all the nomenclature.
The truth is that Rebellion & Conformity are opposite sides of the same, counterfeit coin.
The Rebel says to the Conformist, “You’re transparently phoney; I’d rather be ‘bad’ if ‘good’ means being like you.”
The Conformist says to the Rebel, “You’re obviously wrong; everything you do or say is precisely the opposite of what’s right. You’re not better — just deliberately contrary.”
They’re both right.
Belief IS as belief DOES, Teshuvah.
If he believed any of the things you’re asserting, then he seems to have kept it a secret not only from me
— but also from himself.
dweller:
I have not rejected true Christianity. Most of the church has fallen away from Bible truth and are Antinomians. Some days I feel like Lot who left Sodom.
You miss the point of what I wrote at the end of #1 above. There is a long term plan over many centuries by evil men who worship Lucifer (or his many other names, Osiris, Set, Allah, etc.) who intend to take over the world and make a New World Order that is centered on the occult. That Order is Satanic at its core and the three main groups involved are the Roman Catholic Church (and its creation, Islam), Freemasonry, and the Illuminati. They control most of the world already, the MSM, the education system, the Justice system, whole governments, and use brainwashing and Ecumenism to train people to be politically-correct, lukewarm milksops who are tolerant of almost everything except true Christians and Jews. You can twist the language any way you like, but these groups are joined and intent on finishing the job and killing anyone who will not submit. You should be concerned although I doubt you are. You can look it up with Google at Rev. 13:11-18, esp. v. 15. In Rev. 14:9-12, those who worship the Beast (that world system) will suffer the wrath of G-d. There will be no more middle ground or room for mystics.
It’s your view that you haven’t.
Pike-&-Cohort had the same opinion of themselves, symbology to the contrary notwithstanding.
You never answered the question that I asked in the MIDDLE of #1 above.
To review the sequence:
The SOURCE and SUBSTANCE, please?
Why would I do a thing like that? — I have a healthy respect for language.
They already suffer the wrath of God. Nothing new in that.
No real mystic worships the Beast; arguably, such an individual is the only sort that doesn’t.
dweller:
I have plenty of evidence that He hears me, provides for me and guides me therefore, I need no man to tell me what or what not to believe.
Yes, I did. You just weren’t paying attention. Go back and review what I said.
Earlier I said you were conflicted and I thought you were a Catholic or married to one. Now I think you are a Mason or you just like to fight. You would defend the Devil himself.
You cannot worship strange gods and not be cursed. All of the gods of the Masons are pretty strange and very occult. In the case of Masons, they speak oaths and also penalties for breaking the oaths. Ps 54:2 Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth. Surely, G-d hears the words of their mouths and rewards them accordingly. I know a man who was not a Mason, but his father was. The father left the Masons at the 3rd level. One of the early Masonic curses that a man brings upon himself is disembowelment as I wrote above. Nothing happened to him, but his adult son became ill and the doctors didn’t know why. He had a 10% chance of living if he were operated on. They did the operation to remove his gall bladder and spleen and during the operation his guts were rolled out on a wheel. It was a curse that passed from father to son. This was 30 plus years ago.
Reread Deut. 28; 1 Sam 7:3; and Mt 4:10. Obey G-d and serve Him ONLY. Basically the curse is for disobeying the First Commandment: Ex 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Mazal Tov.
Precisely Albert Pike’s point as well.
I looked high & low for it, Darlin’; now and then. Still no luck. (Guess that’s what happens when one keeps such [extra] long hours at the terminal; the eyes go buggy.)
Why not just repeat it for me now, so we can save the treasure hunt for another time:
What’s the SOURCE and SUBSTANCE of the “occult spirits” you referenced?
Yes, and before that, you thought I was an ungodly “Secular Humanist,” like “Nebuchadnezzar.”
And before that, a “Christian” and before that, a paint-by-the-numbers Jew.
Well, I’m not a Mason, and never been one.
So by process of deduction, I guess you found me out.
I’m just a bare knuckle, barroom brawler with a keyboard. No other possibilities remaining.
I would absolutely defend his place in the world as Devil
— as it serves the Boss’s purposes.
Just as I defend your place in the world, Teshuvah, as YOURSELF
— and for precisely the same reason.
If He rewarded their oaths offerred to false gods, and punished them for ‘breaking’ same, He would be giving legitimacy to those false gods.
That’s not His style, Milady
— says He is a “jealous” God.
I won’t fuss with you over whether it’s the FIRST of the Dibrot, as that is peripheral to the point.
More significant, however, is that if in fact the curse was for disobeying that injunction, then the punishment would have been for STAYING in the Masons
— not for LEAVING them.
dweller:
Satan = Lucifer = demonic spirits. Albert PIke worshipped Lucifer.
dweller: Here is an example of what could be called “Watch your mouth!”
Nu 30:2 If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
Jg 11:29 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.
30 And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’S, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
32 So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.
33 And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
34 And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
35 And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
Okay, you’ve given me a name for them; that’s a start.
And his/their SOURCE?
And their SUBSTANCE?
The presumption is that if a man makes a vow to God, the very fact of Whom the vow is directed toward will make him think especially carefully of what he proposes; that it will concentrate his mind, in light of the seriousness of the act of oath-taking.
Ah, yes, they always pull out the Yiftakh story at times like these. Of course he could go back! Yiftakh was an imbecile — is God an imbecile too?
Yiftakh, “Jepthah,” was wrong to make a vow rashly.
He was wrong again to carry out rashly a vow that should never have been made thus.
His ego was so tied up in battlefield success that he stopped thinking at that point. All that mattered was winning. As if God didn’t WANT him to win in the first place, and wouldn’t have given him success anyway without his making the request — let alone, taken the vow, or ANY vow. (The Agamemnon/Iphigenia story is every bit as heartbreaking, though the element of oath-taking is not part of it.)
But Yiftakh’s GREATER error was in attributing to God the same blind enshacklement to foolish words that man is so often subject to. The One who created man’s intellect is Himself possessed of an infinitely GREATER one. It is perhaps the ultimate idolatry to judge Him as crass, stupid and insensitive.
From the Ammonites and the other idolatrous ethnicities of Gil’ad and Cana’an one might have readily expected such compulsive evil masquerading as “keeping one’s word” — NOT from Am Segula, not from His treasured People.
The period of the Judges is a transitional one: between the Exodus & the Monarchy, and represents the first few generations of a former bond-people whose last direct possessors of the slave memory had died in the desert. In some ways this made the minds of those who lived in the era of the Judges something of a “blank slate” — but by the same token it left them wide open & subject to the environmental influences of the mentality, attitudes & practices of all the established locals they would later supplant.
Invariably — and despite the repeated admonition to eschew the practices (and presence) of the locals — this mentality showed up, again & again, in the lives of the very flawed Judges themselves.
Yiftakh conquered.
But he also WAS conquered.
Concept of sacrificial Passover Lamb as a sin sacrifice originates in the NT scriptures as there is no reference to a Messiah (savior) in Hebrew scriptures. This concept is 100% Christian.
John 1:29
1Corinthians 5:7
The Torah mandates and describes in detail many types of sacrifices:
Voluntary Burt offerings
Mandatory Burnt offerings
Peace offerings
Guilt Offerings
Commemorative Offerings
New Moon Offerings
Sin Offerings
Not all offerings were for atonement. In some instances grain, wine and incense could be offered. The Passover sacrifice was a commemorative sacrifice for the freeing of the Jewish people from bondage in Egypt not for atonement or sin; so the concept of a sacrificial lamb mis-attributed by Christians. Ex 12: 1-14 each lamb would be for only 1 family (not for the whole community and certainly not for mankind) and must be totally roasted and all of it eaten. Ex.12 It had to be killed only in the Temple and it’s blood ceremoniously sprinkled on the alter. Deut 12:11 and lev 4:32-34
Eating Blood prohibited in the Torah Lev 3:17 and 17:10 See what NT has to say John 6:53-55
When was Jesus crucified? John 18:28 and 19: 14-16, has Jesus crucified before Passover and Mark 14:12,17-18 and Luke 22:7-8,14-15 have them eating a Passover sacrifice and feast. Which means he was arrested after Passover and could not be a Passover sacrifice after the fact.
So here we have a man symbolically called The Passover Lamb,thought to be the sin sacrifice unlike the original Passover sacrifice, was crucified instead of being roasted and eaten,was not killed in the Temple and had no blood sprinkled on the alter. It is also uncertain if he was sacrificed in time for Passover.
According to the Torah in Lev 4 it lists specifically the types or kinds of acceptable sacrifices: Bulls, Goats and Lambs. Humans are not included. Jesus fails the test of acceptable sacrifices.
Lev 4- Animals must be unblemished, Sacrifice must be performed by a Levitical priest and the ceremony MUST take place in the TEMPLE. The animal must die from loss of blood and it’s blood sprinkled on the alter.
No Priest would have considered Jesus an acceptable sacrifice.
G-d tells the Hebrews not to worship him as do foreign nations their pagan gods. Deut 12:29-31 Human sacrifice condemned in Jer.19:4-5, Ezeck 16:20-21, Psalm 106: 37-38
If G-d so detested Human sacrifice why did he send his son to be sacrificed?
NT says that without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness of sin Hebrews 9:22
What does G-d of the Jews say is acceptable for sin offerings?
Flour lev 5:11
Money exodus 30:15-16
Jewlery Numbers 31:50
Prayer Hosea 14:1-4
Moses attempted to pay for the sins of the Hebrews and was rejected Exodus 32:31-34
Everyone is responsible for their own sins and this is also expressed in Ezek 18:20-22 and Ezek 18:30
It should be obvious that Christianity is far detached from Judaism and all Jewish concepts of sacrifice and sin. It is also apparent that Jesus and his apostles did not speak for the same god as we find in Hebrew scriptures.
Padded cells are being prepared as we comment.
Quite so.
But I told you, Yamit, the reason he had to die had nothing to do with ‘propitiation.’
His death was necessary in order to tempt the Lord of the Fallen Angels (remember, “Ralph”?) to break the Law — viz., to take into his realm a soul to which he had no lawful right.
This was a massive, universe-wide, Cosmic “sting operation.”
“He died, and descended unto the Abode of the Dead…”
“He led captivity captive…” etc.
All this stuff about a “perfect atonement” and all the rest of that hokey business was a way of politely making convenient use of an existing pagan concept (appeasement) in order to get a toehold in a hostile gentile world.
Glossolalia, i.e., “speaking in tongues” (not the actual gift of conversing naturally in an actual language formerly unknown to the speaker — that’s legitimate — but, rather, emotional blathering in gibberish) was another example of a pagan notion/practice also used to make such inroads.
Who can forget?!?!
Lord of the Rings?
or
Lord of the Flies?
Gibberish dweller, you forget: Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me; I am the Lord; and there is none else;
45:7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and CREATE EVIL; I am the Lord, that doeth all these things.
You have no Jewish Biblical source for your belief therefore, it remains…just Gibberish, no less pagan than that which you claim to be pagan in origin and application. There is no concept of a rebellious or fallen angel in Jewish scriptures or thought.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
In any event my comment was directed primarily to Teshuvah.
And HOW does He “create evil”? — do you know?
I rather doubt that you do. You quote the words, but that’s all. You can’t connect the dots. Despite the fact that you grandly tout the importance of man’s God-given intellect, when a clear opportunity presents itself for you to put it to work, you are (unless I miss my guess) CLUELESS.
Are the Laws of Gravitation ‘just gibberish’?
Laws of Thermodynamics, ‘gibberish’?
— they don’t appear in Tanakh either.
There are lots of things that may not be written down for all sorts of entirely legitimate reasons.
There are also things that may have once been written and since been expunged — for reasons both good AND ill.
I understood that, Yamit.
But your comment was specifically in response to something she had directed to myself.
(But so what? — on either score?)