Obama Supports Penn State’s Removal of Paterno Statue
Posted by Bill Levinson
Source: Wall Street Journal
- President Barack Obama supports the decision for Penn State University to take down the statue of Joe Paterno after a report by former FBI Director Louis Freeh showed the late football coach and other school officials ignored allegations of child sexual abuse, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Sunday.
The problem is that the Freeh Report’s content contradicts its findings, and another problem is Freeh’s track record of slipshod and incomplete investigative research. Obama’s approach to the Penn State issue is therefore similar to his (and the UN’s) approach to Israel: disregard the facts in favor of what is politically convenient.
If you know any Penn State alumni, please share this with them to help make sure Obama loses Pennsylvania and the general election with it.
The only people who don’t support anti Paterno sentiment and Penn States’ decision, are die hard Supporters of Penn St and Paterno
By connecting Obama you hope to gain support from brain dead conservatives who would react the same way fighting bulls do at a waving red cape.
Obama is you hoped for red cape. In this case you are on the wrong side and most Americans won’t jump on your wagon even if you use your Obama red cape.
Americans, as a general observation has lost it when it comes to their idols of sport and entertainment. They have lost all sense of proportion.
I have to agree with Yamit. Bill, are you seriously defending a man who covered up for a pedophile? And please don’t tell me there’s no proof. Sandusky was sodomizing little boys in the shower at Penn St. How likely is it that no one knew what he was doing? You are obviously blinded by your own bias. I don’t know whether you are a Penn. St. alumni, but you are from PA. and obviously worshipped Paterno. Perhaps you should consider that Paterno wasn’t the man you thought he was.
98% of all Pennsylvanians think Paterno got off easy. Move on.
@ Laura:
Laura you know I believe you are a very smart young lady.
Before it’s all over it will be determined not only was there no cover up but Joe Paterno had no idea Sandusky was a pedophile.
First of all I encourage anyone who hasn’t read the Freeh report do so, it’s over 250 pages plus, a majority of which are procedures.
Freeh himself admits it is not a report based on facts, he states it is his opinion he comes to a reasonable conclusion.
His tract record speaks volumes.
Remember Freeh or his staff never interviewed Joe Paterno (who was still alive at the time), Mike McQueary, Curly, Shultz, Pres. Spainer or Sandusky.
For those who read the report all agree there is no smoking gun and there is nothing suggesting a cover up.
Trust me there are a lot of PennState and Joe Paterno haters out there who came out of the woodwork and would just love to stick a pick fork in them.
Their high graduation rate for athletes is almost second to none.
PennState always has put education ahead of sports and Joe said you can be smart as well as an athlete.
The PennState family also has a pretty good record of doing good.
@ Laura:
A prosecutors opinion of the Freeh report.
@ Laura:
Laura,
Freeh has a track record of lousy investigative workmanship, and has himself been credibly accused of a cover-up at the FBI. http://www.businessinsider.com/penn-state-investigator-louis-freeh-accused-of-heading-a-massive-cover-up-as-director-of-fbi-2012-7#ixzz21vnZV8hQ
I have personally read the body of his report, and it does not support his conclusions. Trust Barry the Buffoon and his friend Bob Casey to pick the wrong side.
By the time we (PSU alumni) are done with the Freeh Group, nobody will hire it to investigate so much as a parking ticket, and that will drag down the NCAA and everybody who picked the wrong side.
@ Bill Levinson:
The next time you rant about Muslims however correct, look first in your own backyard. You are behaving as any Muslim does by blaming the messenger or the data or some other lame excuse for denial of culpability. Muslims get excited when defending Mohamed, our Felix when defending his Trotsky, Christians defending their myths and demigod and You, ron and some others are doing the same for Paterno.
Personally I don’t care one way or the other but if Paterno didn’t know anything, it was a willful ignorance as he should have known. He will unfortunately never face a jury of his peers in a court of law but in the court of Public Opinion he is dirty, damaged goods and guilty by commission or omission, either way he got off lightly.
@ yamit82:
Yamit you know better than that.
First of all the people at the “Second Mile” had no clue.
Sandusky not only adopted children, he had foster kids and the agencies who monitor this had no idea and they are professionals.
How would you expect Joe Paterno who was pretty much involved in the football program and raising funds for the liberal arts school and Sandusky was no longer on his coaching staff.
Sandusky had access to the campus facilities as a result of the emeritus status granted to him by the university and part of his retirement package negotiated by his attorney.
Although he was a former coach, Paterno and Sandusky were not the best of friends and did not socialize.
Remember, the Court of Public opinion is dictated by the liberal media and those who have an agenda.
PennState had never had any NCAA fractions and had one of the best graduation rates for athletes in the country.
Jealousy runs rampant and the PennState and Paterno haters jumped on this like bears on honey.
The up and coming trails will shed more light.
Now about the messenger, good grief Freeh himself admits the document is not factual but he states the so called cover up is reached by reasonable conclusion. Great, how many people can agree on what is reasonable.
Read the report, you can pull it up in google.
rongrand Said:
I do not know much about the Paterno case and would not speculate on his innocence or guilt. However, I do know that the media, business and political leaders are riddled in corruption. We have seen the character assassination of Israel and the Jews and there is NOT ONE SHRED OF DOUBT in my mind that allegations of corruption of the media and leadership have more than a 50% random chance of being correct. If someone reads the report and alleges corruption by the FBI it would not be a surprising thought to me. The Paterno case is not of interest to me but disinformation and corruption is. Disinformation and corruption are the norm not the anomaly. Therefore allegations of corruption should regularly be considered, especially in political agencies such as the FBI(remember Hoover?). These days it is difficult to glean tructh from the media or govt. Is it not strange that the US is fighting alongside and in support of Jihadists and Al Qaeda these days and back in the 80′s yet we are to believe that the relationship was sour in the intervening period? All these jihadist mmovements are linked and many back to the sauds.
I had no feeling one way or another about Joe Paterno and Penn St. prior to this revelation.
Ron and Bill, Sandusky sodomized a ten year old boy in the Penn St. shower and was seen doing so. This was in 2002. Paterno did admit he was told but didn’t know how to handle it. Nothing was done about Sandusky. How can you deny there was a coverup? There’s no excuse for what they did and no justification for defending Penn St.
Obviously the kids were afraid to talk about it and perhaps no one had seen Sandusky do anything to them. The point is that Sandusky was actually seen by an aid sodomizing a boy in the shower at Penn St. and no action was taken against him.
Its mind boggling that anyone would still be defending the university at this point. Obviously protecting the reputation of Penn St. and Paterno is more important to some people than the welfare of children. This is why Sandusky got away with this for so long in the first place.
Pedophilia should be an issue that concerns everybody.
You link to lewrockwell? Don’t you know that is a viciously antisemitic website.
He had no idea, really? In fact he had known since 2002.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paterno-admits-handle-sex-allegation/story?id=15362562
Stop defending the indefensible.
@ Laura:
Laura, unfortunately the testimony of McQueary at the Sandusky trial did not stand up, the jury did not believe it. In fact the doctor friend at the house when Mike came home to tell his dad (a hospital administrator) the doctor indicated Mike did not state he saw Sandusky having sex with a youngster.
Think for a minute, here is a 6’5″ 275 pound former quarterback who was use to having 300lb guys chasing him could have stopped Sandusky or at least (as my older son who once attended PennState indicated, there are emergency buttons throughout the areas, if pressed will bring the
police). And why not go in the shower area and grab the youngster and pull him to safety or a least call the police.
No, none of the above, he races home to tell his dad.
Then the next day tell Coach Paterno. Why Paterno, Sandusky was no longer on the staff.
What in fact did he tell Paterno????
Laura Said:
The D.A. thought there was no evidence back in 1998.
Bill Levinson Said:
Any examples of how the Freeh Report is flawed?
rongrand Said:
I can understand why Curley and Schultz were unavailable for comment.
But McQueary was willing to tell his side of the story.
yamit82 Said:
Bill does not rant about Muslims in general, but militant Islamist sand Nazis. To the contrary, he objects to arguments that blames all Muslims for Islamic terrorism. In the past decade that I read his posts, both here and on other sites, he has adhered to ethics, decency, and honesty.
Why would he engage in intellectual dishonesty and indecency to defend Joe Paterno?
@ Michael Ejercito:
Yes, and Joe and his family request Freeh to meet with them to tell their side of the story.
What was Freeh afraid of??
Again here is Red (we all refer to McQueary)instead of reporting it to the police he waits to tell Joe.
Whatever he told Joe (and it’s believed he said nothing of a youngster being sexually molested rather something about horse play).
You don’t report it to Joe, you go to Schultz who is the Financial VP and head of the PennState police department which has the same authority as any city or municipal police department, in essence Schultz was the police commissioner.
PennState has a HR department, legal department why would anyone go to Joe Paterno the football coach for advise.
Whatever he told Joe, Joe told him to meet with Schultz, the police commissioner and Curly, the AD they would know what procedures to follow.
Would it make sense for the AD and Police commissioner to ask Joe how to handle it or go to the legal department and advise the school president. Certainly not the football coach.
@ Michael Ejercito:
Levinson refuses to accept the fact that there is no real division between Muslims and radical Muslims. His contention that there is a separation is a specious division.
Because unlike you I consider him to be intellectually dishonest. He is a political and intellectual partisan that manipulates facts to support his political agendas.
He is a Alumnus of P.S.U, and Paterno is one of his idols he worships. That’s Why.
yamit82 Said:
Any evidence that he worships Paterno? All I have seen him do is a fact-based analysis of the situation. I asked him how the Freeh Reportt is flawed, and I expect an answer from him.
I don’t care about the Freeh report. I said above that he is guilty either by commission or omission, If he didn’t know it was because he didn’t want to or at least should have known but did nothing.
@ Michael Ejercito:
Michael read:http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/07/the-case-against-joe-paterno-weak-to-non-existent-on-the-current-record.php
If McQueary would have done the right thing (choice, call 911, grab the youngster, press one of the panic buttons} he would be a hero today.
What role did Gov. Corbett play in the Sandusky scandal.
What is Corbett hiding??
Link to Usenet comment thread is here.
Michael Ejercito Said:
Every time you link to this, I find them mocking you – and that’s an understatement.
Who cares about Usenet?!
Shy Guy Said:
It is only the Revd who mocks me.
The Revd is a white supremacist who denies the Holocaust and fantasizes about Jewish men’s rectums.
@ Michael Ejercito:
Then who cares about Usenet anymore than the talkbacks at DU or the NYT or Newsweek, for that matter.
Shy Guy Said:
I do; I regularly post there.
everyone is correct at least once in their lives, this was Obama’s once
don’t expect any more from him though
Laura Said:
Sandusky was NOT seen sodomizing a boy. Mike McQueary heard noises and inferred that Sandusky was sodomizing a boy. He was not sufficiently confident in what he saw to call the police himself, on the spot.
If Paterno wanted to cover it up, why did he tell his boss who then told other people including the Second Mile?
What the NCAA & Co. are doing to Paterno is similar to what the musloids are doing to Israel.
Michael Ejercito Said:
http://ps4rs.org/docs/press-release_07-26-12.pdf
Michael Ejercito Said:
The Reverend Terence Fformby-Smythe admitted that he is sexually attracted to cattle. I am not kidding.
Bill Levinson Said:
The following Usenet post reveals his sexual disorientation.
Bill Levinson Said:
Thanks.