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  • February 25, 2013

    Jack Chick exposes inconsistencies and contradictions in the Koran

    by Bill Levinson

    We will say up front that we do not share Jack Chick’s theology (only his kind of Christians are going to Heaven while everybody else, including the wrong kinds of Christians as well as Jews and Hindus, are going to the other place), but he definitely has his uses. He has apparently read the Koran in detail, and pointed out inconsistencies as well as statements that Allah is inconsistent–which is hardly consistent with a divine entity. Chick points out, for example,

    “Sura 2.106 Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?” They worship a God who can’t make up his mind?

    The Koran also contradicts itself, which is particularly damning:

    [2.256] There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.

    Chick’s background includes psychological warfare, by the way.

      Chick heard from missionary Bob Hammond, who had broadcast in Asia on the Voice of America, that the Communist Party of China had gained significant influence among ordinary Chinese in the 1950s through the distribution of small comic books.
    Posted by Bill Levinson @ 7:35 am | 71 Comments »
  • 71 Comments to Jack Chick exposes inconsistencies and contradictions in the Koran

    1. dionissis mitropoulos says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      Dionissis, you would be much more moral than the rapist or pedophile by rescuing the lives you mentioned but it wouldn’t make you righteous. The word ‘righteous’ actually means to be ‘a right one.’ According to God’s Word one must have the righteousness of God to be righteous since He’s the only one more powerful than sin.

      So you are giving me your own version of Christianity’s definition of the term “righteous”. I have a different one, a definition that allows for people to be considered righteous or moral (i use those two interchangeably) even if they make the occasional mistake. And judging from what Yamit said, i understand that Judaism too allows for a person to be considered righteous even if the person has sinned at least once.

      Other than that, what is your point exactly?

    2. yamit82 says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      Isaiah 64;6, ‘For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.’

      And we all have become like one unclean, and like a discarded garment are all our righteous deeds, and we all have withered like a leaf, and our iniquities carry us away like the wind.

      Rashi:
      And we all have become like one unclean: since the righteous have departed from us.
      and like a discarded garment: [Jonathan renders:] and like a discarded garment, like a rejected garment, which all say, ‘Remove.’ is the Aramaic translation of removal.
      and we… have withered like a leaf: , and we have withered like a leaf; fletrire in French.
      and our iniquities carry us away like the wind: [Jonathan renders:] And with our sins we were carried away like the wind.

      n Genesis 4 where God is speaking to Cain after he murdered his brother Able. God doesn’t say if Cain does good he will become righteous.

      Cain killed Able but did not murder him. Involuntary manslaughter. He never intended to kill able and had no concept of death either. No sin intended. That said: what was his punishment? To wander with protection that no beast would kill him. Not much of a punishment.

      7. Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it.” No jesus needed!!!!


      Can’t think of a better verse that debunks all you believe

      “I will sacrifice to you with the voice of thanksgiving.” (Jonah 2:10)

      Sins that were not cleansed prior to death are removed by a process described as Sheol or Gehinom. Contrary to the Greek and Christian view of eternal damnation in Hades or Hell, the “punishment” of Sheol, as described in the Jewish Scriptures, is temporary.

      This is why King David said, “You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay” (Psalm 16:10).

      Additionally, the prophet Samuel says, “He [the Lord] brings down to Sheol and brings up again” (I Samuel 2: 6), and the prophet Jonah described it in the following way, “I called out of my affliction to the LORD, and He answered me; out of the depth of Sheol cried I, and you heard my voice” (Jonah 2:3).

      Judaism’s view of hell more closely resembles purgatory. However, the pain the soul experiences is not physical. It has been compared to psychological anguish, shame and healing upon reviewing the history of one’s life in a body, and how it wasted opportunities to serve G-d. This may explain why people who have near death experience often claim their entire life flashed in front of them.

      This self-inflicted chastisement cleanses and refines the soul of blemishes that interfered with the soul’s perception of G-d. The concept of refinement is found in the prophets, “I (God) will refine them as silver is refined” (Zechariah 13:9).

      Everyone can merit a portion in the World to Come. However, the completely evil (like Hitler) cannot merit this. As it says, “multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2).

      It is essential to our understanding to appreciate that the Hebrew word for repentance is Teshuvah, which literally means “to return to God.” Most people are not completely evil or completely good. G-d does not expect perfection or He wouldn’t have provided repentance as a way of returning to Him. G-d’s message of love and compassion is: “Return to Me, says the LORD of hosts, and I will return to you,” (Zechariah 1:3). This is an invitation from G-d to return directly to Him without the need for an intermediary to help us.

      You must learn to read the Jewish bible only from Jewish translations, better in Hebrew, pay attention to context understand what is to be taken literally, and metaphorically and what is and what is not allegory, otherwise you will understand not much.

    3. yamit82 says:

      dionissis mitropoulos Said:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      Dionissis, you would be much more moral than the rapist or pedophile by rescuing the lives you mentioned but it wouldn’t make you righteous. The word ‘righteous’ actually means to be ‘a right one.’ According to God’s Word one must have the righteousness of God to be righteous since He’s the only one more powerful than sin.

      Mica 6:8 “6:8 It hath been told thee, O man, what is good, and what the Lord doth require of thee: only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.” Another rendering is “He has told you, O man, what is good, and what the Lord demands of you; but to do justice, to love loving-kindness, and to walk discreetly with your God.

      deut 10:12 “12. And now, O Israel, what does the Lord, your God, demand of you? Only to fear the Lord, your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, and to worship the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul,”

      christians are very selective in quoting Jewish scriptures and the verses they chose to support their un-Jewish beliefs. The Torah was given to and for the Jews and any gentiles who wish to accept becoming a Jew. They have attempted to steal our religion claiming it as their own. The is a reason for much of Western Jew Hatred over the past 2000 years.

    4. dionissis mitropoulos says:

      yamit82 Said:

      Judaism’s view of hell more closely resembles purgatory. However, the pain the soul experiences is not physical. It has been compared to psychological anguish, shame and healing upon reviewing the history of one’s life in a body, and how it wasted opportunities to serve G-d. This may explain why people who have near death experience often claim their entire life flashed in front of them.

      Yamit, believe it or not, this how i always imagined that the beginnings of the after-life would be, assuming that there is such a thing as the after-life. Being left with our memories and thoughts and emotions, but without bodies or sensations of physical pain.

    5. Alanjo55 says:

      yamit82 Said:

      Sins that were not cleansed prior to death…

      Yamit, how can sins be cleansed prior to death?

      yamit82 Said:

      This is why King David said, “You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay” (Psalm 16:10).

      Is King David referring to himself as ‘Your Holy One’ or someone else? If he’s not referring to himself could he be referring to the Messiah?

      yamit82 Said:

      Everyone can merit a portion in the World to Come. However, the completely evil (like Hitler) cannot merit this. As it says, “multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2).

      How many sins does a person have to have to be ‘completely evil’ like a Hitler? Where do the partially evil souls go? For a person to receive ‘everlasting life’ as Daniel says, does he have to go to Sheol and have them burned away some way, if possible? Sins are eternal and must receive eternal punishment so wouldn’t the soul be burning eternally?

      Yamit, you bring up things which I’ve never heard of which are very interesting.

    6. yamit82 says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      Yamit, how can sins be cleansed prior to death?


      Sin and atonement

      I will entertain questions and criticism after, if you have any.

    7. yamit82 says:

      dionissis mitropoulos Said:

      yamit82 Said:
      Judaism’s view of hell more closely resembles purgatory. However, the pain the soul experiences is not physical. It has been compared to psychological anguish, shame and healing upon reviewing the history of one’s life in a body, and how it wasted opportunities to serve G-d. This may explain why people who have near death experience often claim their entire life flashed in front of them.
      Yamit, believe it or not, this how i always imagined that the beginnings of the after-life would be, assuming that there is such a thing as the after-life. Being left with our memories and thoughts and emotions, but without bodies or sensations of physical pain.

      http://www.israpundit.com/archives/53037/comment-page-2#comment-268740
      http://www.simpletoremember.com/authors/a/tovia-singer/

    8. dionissis mitropoulos says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      Yamit, you bring up things which I’ve never heard of which are very interesting.

      Alanjo, it is a spoiler, moodwise, to politely treat the other one as stupid, as if you are talking to a kid or a mentally deficient. And that’s what you just did with your above sentence addressed to Yamit. You already have ready the answers you want to give to Yamit and Yamit does understand that you have a contesting attitude and that you are not as naive as you wanted to sound in this last sentence of yours. It’s better if you try to speak in a more honest attitude.

      There is only one excuse for this latest ploy of yours that i can think of: some of your comments have not passed moderation and you are trying to rephrase things to what might be deemed acceptable. If that’s the case i take back what i just said about your dishonest attitude of your last sentence. But i need to know: has any of your replies to me been deleted? If i don’t see any reply from you to this question of mine i will assume that it has and i will stop pushing you because i understand it’s awkward if you can’t reply back, no matter how justified deletions of comments might be under certain circumstances. But if nothing of the sort has happened please answer to me that it hasn’t.

    9. Andrew says:

      yamit82 Said:

      Christianity maintains that all men are doomed to sin, and everyone will go to everlasting hell unless they accept jesus as their savior.

      Actually, it dosent Yamit. It believes all men will face judgment, which is different to damnation. ie the reference to “the book of works”.

      Paul also says Jews are saved even though they reject Jesus.

    10. Alanjo55 says:

      @ dionissis mitropoulos:
      I am trying to phrase things so my post will go through the moderation process. Also, on the last post I made it shorter. I’m surprised how Yamit can mention certain individuals in his posts and it passes moderation but I’m glad it does.

    11. Alanjo55 says:

      Andrew Said:

      Paul also says Jews are saved even though they reject Jesus.

      Andrew could you please provide the source of where Paul said that.

    12. yamit82 says:

      @ Andrew:
      Paul, taught that “those who obey the law who will be declared righteous” and that there will be “glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile” (Romans 2:13, 10), implying that Torah-keeping Jews will be accepted by the Lord as righteous.

      Conflicts with: Jesus told His fellow Jews that if they knew the Father, they would know Him also, and those who rejected Him rejected the Father as well (see Luke 10:16; John 5:36-47; cf. also 9:39-41). In keeping with this, John wrote that “he who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life,” and that “no one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also” (1 John 5:12; 2:23)—- (Acts 4:12—(Acts 13:46-Acts 28:16-31)-Romans 9:2-(Romans 10:1-3)

      I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing! (Galatians 2:20)
      “The righteous will live by faith.” (Galatians 3:10-11)

      Thought I would help you out. :)

    13. yamit82 says:

      @ Alanjo55:
      PAUL ADMITTED TO SAYING WHATEVER IT TOOK AND BEING WHOEVER HE NEEDED TO BE TO CONVERT PEOPLE:

      1CO009:020 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

      1CO009:021 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

      1CO009:022 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

      1CO009:023 And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

      PAUL DOES NOT SEEM VERY HONEST TO ME.

      Would you buy a used car from Paul?

    14. Alanjo55 says:

      yamit82 Said:

      Sin and atonement

      Yamit, another time you listed that audio I listened to it. It was good to hear it again. He is a good speaker and funny at times. I agree with him on many things. I feel he falls short of explaining where righteousness comes from along with a few other things. He mentions sacrifice and prayer for redemption so there must be a Redeemer. The Messiah is the Redeemer and is the object of prayer and was also the perfect sacrifice for everyone.

    15. yamit82 says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      He mentions sacrifice and prayer for redemption so there must be a Redeemer. The Messiah is the Redeemer and is the object of prayer and was also the perfect sacrifice for everyone.

      There is only one redeemer and its not a messiah, a Jewish one at least. Only the G-d of Israel can give expiation from transgressions. Then you need to ask what is a transgression? The Torah tells us what G-d says is a transgression and it also tells us how to get forgiveness for such transgressions. Unfortunately your demigod on a cross ain’t the one. In the end times, sacrifices will return so that leaves out your sacrificial god, don’t it? My dispute with you is not your pagan beliefs I don’t care. It’s your blind obsession with attributing to Jewish scripture, made up proof texts alluding to your pagan beliefs. Even you conceptual beliefs that the Messiah is a savior is antithetical to the Prophets descriptions of what the Messiah is and what is expected. There is no concept of demigod savior in Judaism only in Paganism.

      That’s for us the ultimate sin.
      James:
      2:008 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

      2:009 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

      2:010 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

      2:011 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

      2:012 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

      2:013 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

      2:014 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

      2:015 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

      2:016 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

      2:017 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

      2:018 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

      2:019 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

      2:020 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

      2:021 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

      2:022 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

      2:023 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

      2:024 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

      2:025 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
      2:026 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

      AS YOU SEE, JAMES STATED THAT YOU CAN NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY FAITH ALONE AND IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH PAUL.

      James or Paul, Who is right?

    16. Alanjo55 says:

      yamit82 Said:

      In the end times, sacrifices will return so that leaves out your sacrificial god, don’t it?

      Sacrifices will return as the Bible predicts and will be used to teach the way to eternal life through the meaning of the sacrificial death of Yeshua. The sacrificial system of worship in the future will be a constant reminder of what the Redeemer went through in paying for sin.

      yamit82 Said:

      James or Paul, Who is right?

      When each one is taken is context of their writings both are consistent with one other.

    17. Andrew says:

      @ Alanjo55:

      Romans 11:26,27 & 28

    18. Andrew says:

      @ yamit82:

      Impressive. Most Impressive.

    19. yamit82 says:

      Alanjo55 Said:

      James or Paul, Who is right?

      Excuse me for laughing, :D

      Sacrifices will return as the Bible predicts and will be used to teach the way to eternal life through the meaning of the sacrificial death of Yeshua. The sacrificial system of worship in the future will be a constant reminder of what the Redeemer went through in paying for sin.

      WOW!!! Where does it say that? Must say when cornered your reliance on creative exegesis is quite puerile if not outright pathetic.

      MAT 5:017 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

      MAT 5:018 “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
      THIS SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WHAT THE PROPHET MALACHI SAID CONCERNING THE LAW, THAT THE LAW WILL BE IN EFFECT UNTIL THE “END OF DAYS”. Has the Law been fulfilled since Yeshu? Nope!!!
      MAT 5:020 “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

      PAUL TAUGHT PEOPLE NOT TO DO SOME OF G-D’S LAWS AND MANY OF G-D’S LAWS ARE NOT BEING TAUGHT IN christianity TODAY. WOULD PAUL BE CALLED “LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN”?

      Now who is correct, What Yeshu taught above or what Paul taught? Paul said it only requires faih in Yeshu. (seems like Yeshu and PAUL did not have the same belief).

      EVEN YESHU SAID THAT FAITH IN HIM WAS NOT ENOUGH. DOING G’D'S WILL, AS MANIFESTED IN THE LAW, IS THE KEY TO ENTERING INTO HEAVEN.

      MAT23:1 Then spake jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

      MAT23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:

      MAT23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

      HERE YESHU TOLD EVERYONE TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS THAT THEY TEACH. HE EVEN ADMITTED THAT THEY SAT IN MOSES’ SEAT, NOT HIM. HE KNEW THAT THE TORAH SAYS THAT ONLY THEY HAD THE AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTER THE LAW (SEE DEU 17:8-12).

    20. yamit82 says:

      @ Andrew:

      We may differ but you are still one of my favorite people commenting on this blog. And I do respect and trust you.

    21. Andrew says:

      @ yamit82:

      Thanks Yamit. The respect is reciprocated. You are one of the most erudite men I have ever come across. I learn so much from reading your posts. Cheers.

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